Why isn't Carnera in the IBHOF?

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  1. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Many people think Carnera was an excellent boxer. Why is he the only champion from the 1930's that isn't in the IBHOF. Schmeling, Sharkey, Baer, Braddock and of course Louis are all in, but not Carnera.
    Should a petition be started to get him in?
     
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Absolutely. Without Primo it's a hall of shame.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I would have actually thought so, if sharkey, Braddock etc are. I'd have thought he'd be in the same criteria as the other s. End of the day he did get the belt as did the other s.
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Why do you think he isn't in there?
     
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  5. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He's certainly as deserving as Braddock and Sharkey, Willard, Johansson.
    Young Stribling is in.

    The reason Carnera isn't in is probably an ongoing prejudice against him, since American "historians" decided to use him as some sort of scapegoat for all the fraud, hype and dubious record-building present in the sport.
     
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  6. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone ever see the movie The Harder They Fall (1956). Max Baer, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Pat Comiskey are in the movie. The character Toro Moreno is based on Carnera, a simple peasant giant who can't fight gets taken to the USA fights a string of fixed fights, gets a shot at Buddy Brannon (played by Max Baer), gets beaten to a pulp, and robbed of all his money by the mob. I have it on dvd. It was Humphrey Bogart's last film before he died.
     
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  7. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How did Schmeling with his association with the German Nazis get in then?
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No awkward questions please!lol
    There are 31 foreign fighters in the Old Timers Category .
    Including
    Scottish
    Irish
    Welsh
    Danish
    British
    French
    Barbadian
    Virgin Islands
    Japanese
    Australian
    Cuban
    Panamanian
    Czech
    Filipino
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Perhaps they believe adding him will make it just that?:nono:
     
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  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I genuinely don’t know to be honest.

    There are worse heavyweights in, and there are less famous heavyweights in.

    Even if he was as bad as his detractors claim, he ought to take it based on being such a controversial figure.

    It seems to be a quite incredible decision.
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Does anyone really care who is in and who is not?
     
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  12. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    One thing i have noticed is that the few posters who get so very touchy defending Marciano, are now the exact same ones attempting to defend Carnera.
    Pattern .?
    Aside from the height differential.......
     
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  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It seems a little unjust that one person who clearly meets the criteria is singled out in this way.
     
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  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Perhaps it is more the case that these two fighters share many of the same detractors?
     
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Why isnt he top 5 pound 4 pound????
     
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