Why isn't Carnera in the IBHOF?

What's this? I cannot believe you are rejecting what your own eyes are showing you here..

Are you disputing that campolo was put down? I like how you trust the part what the report says about the first round, it's all so amusing. Why can't you just trust what you see?

Campolo took a hard knockdown initially then took a big right uppercut. He was as suitably as hurt as anyone can be. I am left to assume that because the reporter says campolo looks weary you need to believe he was too tired to continue, sagged and just faded away..like a leaf in the wind ...even though we see booming right handers spread eagle campolo mid exchange. Campolo did well getting up! If he was so weary, how did he manage that.

 

I absolutely love it. This actually endorses Campolo! 83" reach, 6'6" 223lb, he's as big as Gerry Cooney!

Is Gerry Cooney a milk bottled shouldered bean pole too???

 

I do not perform medical diagnoses; mainly on account of not being a medical doctor.

Do you think you might actually answer my previous question on how you came to a diagnosis of concussion, just from several seconds of grainy black and white footage?

No. What gave you that idea?

So do I.

I do.

As I have already mentioned and asked questions about (which you have clumsily avoided answering, with your usual bag of mumbo jumbo), I've not often observed people suffering from concussion looking so lively as Campolo does in that footage. He gets up more or less immediately after the count completes, with some vigor?

So Dr. choklab - care to answer me on how you know he was concussed?

 

Zero.

 

He's a bean pole anybody with half a brain can see that.

 

because he wasn't a HOF caliber fighter

 

Cooney was a beanpole?

 

Cooney has a back on him like a horse,you really are a nonsense.

http://www.esnewsreporting.com/holmesvscooney/?fdx_switcher=mobile

 

You don't need to be unconscious to suffer a concussion. The vacant staring your reporter talks of could quite easily match the conscious vacant look on Berbicks face whilst he was down against Tyson or Baer as he sat during his count against Louis. In fact Sharkey against Louis too. I don't know how new your reporter was to boxing but this look is common among guys who are counted out.

As you may or may not know it is common for all knockout and stoppage victims of world title fights to spend a night in hospital as a precautionary measure today to monitor a concussion. Or at the very least to be looked over by a doctor and prevented from boxing for a period of three months. This is because a reaction to heavy blows rendered the victim either in no position to defend himself,to go over, black out etc. It's very well known.

I have not clumsily avoided anything at all. It is clear that a big man falling backwards and dropping his full weight onto his back causing the back of his head rebounding off the canvas will cause sufficient shock in itself but the fact he takes a full blooded right hand before that fall, and that the fall is spontaneously linked to that blow means he should and would have experienced a blackout. Hence the fall on connection.

I don't need to be a doctor to know this. Perhaps the reporter needs to know a bit more about boxing if he is mistaking any open eyed countout for a guy who is not properly knocked out?

There is a reason why the opinion part of a report (unless by an authoritative boxing figure) from this kind of era should be taken with a pinch of salt. Especially when it does not mirror what can be seen on film.

 

I agree, Cooney was a big strong dude...and campolo was too. Same weight. Same height. Obviously Cooney was better, I am not suggesting that, but Campolo is the same sized guy. You can put up as many photos of Cooney and all I can see is campolo. Switch heads and it's the same guy.

 

Blimey! That's a very long-winded way (two posts worth) of saying you're making an assumption.

I'm almost impressed by the detail you're able to extract from the available footage, with the brightness up at maximum, a low frame rate, in an apparently accelerated video.

 

No you see what you want to see not reality. Cooney had stick legs but a 44inch chest and big biceps Campolo is a stick insect.

 

That's rather derogatory. Campolo looks like a tough hombre.

 

It's not an assumption, the guy is dazed because He was struck down for real. It is self evident.

 

Of course it is...