Why isn't Chagaev appreciated more?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by HistoryZero26, Nov 30, 2024.


  1. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

    8,964
    2,219
    Sep 13, 2008
  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,448
    5,636
    Dec 31, 2018
    I actually think he’s been getting more overrated more recently, people picking him to beat Mercer etc, I think too much emphasis has been getting placed onto ‘fundamentals’ in terms of people’s picks in H2H matchups, better fundamentals don’t guarantee the win, and Chagaev’s record suggests he was decent, but not impressive at world level, he absolutely wouldn’t beat the best version of Mercer for example, Browne was landing uppercuts with frequency against him, imagine was Mercer would do, who is much quicker and has better technique? He’d eat Chagaev alive on the inside, get him against the ropes and pound him, Chagaev also doesn’t have enough fleet of foot to stay away like an Ibragimov or Byrd would.
     
  3. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,924
    2,011
    Jan 8, 2025
    Because Wladimir made him look hopeless ;)
     
    MaccaveliMacc likes this.
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    61,687
    46,333
    Feb 11, 2005
    Wladimir hardly lost a round for the most part of a decade. He made a lot of otherwise very good fighters look hopeless.
     
    Dorrian_Grey, NoNeck and OddR like this.
  5. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,924
    2,011
    Jan 8, 2025
    Insane domination. I think it will be very long while before we see something like that again especially at heavyweight.
     
    Seamus and NoNeck like this.
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    61,257
    23,949
    Jul 21, 2012
    Nobody wants to see another man physically molest his way to victory over undersized and undermatched opponents again.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    61,257
    23,949
    Jul 21, 2012
    What , you mean the sick patient who wasn't given medical clearance to fight Nikolai? So instead of fighting Nikolai , Wlad fought the sick patient instead, giving him only 4 weeks notice.
    HBO passed on showing a behemoth Vs a man not medically fit to box.
    What an amazing achievement for Klitschko!
     
  8. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,924
    2,011
    Jan 8, 2025
    Lol it didn't take you long :p
     
    Greg Price99 likes this.
  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    61,257
    23,949
    Jul 21, 2012
    Giving credit to Wlad for beating Brewster is the same as giving credit to Lucas Browne for beating Chagaev. :icon_tfno:
     
    OddR likes this.
  10. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    2,734
    3,417
    May 17, 2022
    Still waiting on you to criticize Ali, Hopkins and Ward for doing the same thing. I'll wait......
     
  11. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

    3,912
    9,663
    Aug 15, 2021
    It does not help his fan appreciation situation that he looked so bad in the biggest fight of his career.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    26,686
    17,742
    Apr 3, 2012
    Chagaev for the Browne fight was at the same stage of his career as Mercer when he was playing dead against Briggs.
     
    themaster458 likes this.
  13. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,753
    4,176
    Jan 6, 2024
    A spin off of this thread I've considered is "why does no one value Valuev"?
     
    Shay Sonya likes this.
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    61,257
    23,949
    Jul 21, 2012
    Mercer was 44 and a walking corpse when he fought Briggs.

    Ruslan was 38 , WBA Regula Champ on a 7 fight win streak and just coming off a one round KO over world title challenger Fran Pianeta.

    Not the same.

    Chagev when he was favourite to beat Browne was around the same prime if not a more than Sanders when he fought Vitali.

    He was way primer than Brewster in the WK rematch.
     
  15. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,448
    5,636
    Dec 31, 2018
    He's only less than 6 months older than Browne, and he was 37, whereas Mercer against Briggs was only like 2 years younger than what Chagaev is today (Mercer was 44), and he’d damaged a nerve in his neck which massively affects not only how you can move, but how you take punches, and it also massively distracts you.