Why isn't Deontay Wilder famous/huge in America yet?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxerFan89, Aug 19, 2015.


  1. Lennox

    Lennox Active Member Full Member

    972
    43
    Oct 13, 2010
    Dksab
     
  2. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

    1,064
    8
    Jan 17, 2015
    It was because he was scared. Holyfield was a 25-1 underdog, Lewis would have been the favorite over Tyson.

    Lewis by 95 was a threat and in a better position to fight Tyson. Holyfield was coming off losses to Bowe and Moorer, he was deemed washed up.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,640
    18,440
    Jun 25, 2014
    Mike Tyson was based out of New York. His managers also happened to have close relationships with national and New York newspapers and television outlets. There were feature articles written about Tyson in national magazines the first year he was a pro. He appeared on national network television against Ferguson and Quick Tillis in his second year as a pro. He headlined HBO broadcasts in year two. He also entered the heavyweight elimination tournament on HBO and defeated Berbick in his second year as a pro. And, in his third year as a pro, he began dating famous models and he married an actress who appeared on a major network television program. So, even people who didn't know him as a fighter, suddenly saw him appearing in the gossip mags and papers at every grocery store checkout line.

    He was seen as a savior of a sport that had no clear champ. Guys would win a title and lose it in their next fight. There was no stability at the top at all.

    By comparison, Wilder came out of the south. I don't think any Deontay Wilder pro fights aired on any cable broadcasts until his third of fourth year as a pro. He didn't begin fighting for regional titles until his fourth year as a pro. He's fighting for the first time on national network television in his next fight (in his seventh year as a pro). Most of his bouts have taken place in smaller cities (Mobile, Alabama; Tuscon, Arizona, NOWHERE, Mexico).

    Golden Boy did a simply HORRIBLE job marketing/showcasing him, because they were too busy trying to appeal to Latino fans with lower-weight boxers.

    And, whether you're a fan of them or not, the Klitschkos were the dominant fighters in the division for the better part of a decade, and Wlad is one of the longest reigning champs in history. I think he's about to make his 20th successive defense against Fury.

    Wilder has yet to fight him.

    Compared to Wlad Klitschko and his 20 defenses, Berbick was making his first title defense against Tyson. Bonecrusher was making his first title defense when he fought Tyson. Tucker was making his first title defense. Nobody knew them, but they knew who Tyson was.

    Their situations are, in no way, similar.

    If you took everything Wilder has accomplished in seven years, Tyson accomplished the same amount in less than two years, before marrying a famous actress/TV personality.

    Tyson was viewed as an unstoppable phenom. Wilder is still a question mark, because he hasn't beaten Wlad Klitschko yet.

    If Wilder does become a dominant heavyweight champion, people years from now will probably spend all their time talking about how mismanaged he was. It shouldn't have taken an American Olympic medalist SEVEN YEARS to get a title shot.

    Golden Boy should've showcased him the moment he signed with them.
     
    Kapparino likes this.
  4. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

    9,270
    269
    Apr 12, 2009
    Wilder hasn't beaten any good fighters. He has a series of knockouts against C-level fighters, but when he finally faced a B-level fighter (Stiverne) he went the distance.

    If Wilder gets a win over someone like Tyson Fury, 39-year-old Vladimir Klitschko, or Alexander Povetkin, then people all over the world will become his fans.
     
  5. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

    1,064
    8
    Jan 17, 2015
    Thank you for this answer.

    Honestly, this was all I was looking for. Not arguments, just insightful responses like this.
     
  6. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,545
    2,366
    Apr 22, 2012

    You got it in one.
     
  7. Lennox

    Lennox Active Member Full Member

    972
    43
    Oct 13, 2010
    Yep. Media connections were huge and the awful division was as well which is why Deontay should have just been crazy active as he didn't have any berbicks to snipe.
     
  8. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    3,488
    731
    Jul 5, 2011
    Is this a joke?

    Wilder has a great record but tell me his top 3 wins. His best win is Stiverne who himself isn't exactly an elite fighter. Then you have clowns like MVC say he is the greatest thing since Ali. He feasts on terrible opposition.

    Hell look at Wlad, some people bash him but at least he has beaten Haye, Povetkin, Peter, Jennings, Thompson, and other fighters who are TOP contenders. Not the likes of Molina and other cab drivers.
     
  9. Lennox

    Lennox Active Member Full Member

    972
    43
    Oct 13, 2010
    Out of your element. Lulz at your Dksab posts.
     
  10. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

    1,064
    8
    Jan 17, 2015
    It's not a joke, Tyson within his first 15 fights was a household name. Now Tyson DID step up his competition eventually, but he got mainstream attention from bum wins.
     
  11. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,165
    6
    May 15, 2011
    Beyond the level of opponents, just compare Tyson's punching technique to Wilder's, Wilder's windmill flurries look amateurish, even someone who doesn't follow boxing can see this.
     
  12. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

    1,064
    8
    Jan 17, 2015
    Young Foreman also had windmill punches.
     
  13. Lennox

    Lennox Active Member Full Member

    972
    43
    Oct 13, 2010
    Keep in mind all but one of Tyson's fights are on video. And most of those broadcasts were major networks/stations. He was afforded coverage and exposure only reserved for major Olympic stars.
     
  14. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,047
    Oct 25, 2006
    Brilliant post.
     
  15. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

    1,064
    8
    Jan 17, 2015
    Why? If Wilder dominates, all eyes will be on his reign.