Why isn't Fury stripped of his Ring belt yet?!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Robney, Jun 13, 2017.


Should Fury be stripped now?

Poll closed Jun 27, 2017.
  1. yes

    62.5%
  2. no

    21.9%
  3. 42

    15.6%
  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
    ...check.
    The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months.
    ...check.
    The Champion does not schedule a fight with a top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
    ...check.
    The Champion retires.
    ...check
    The Champion tests positive for a performance-enhancing substance.
    ...check.

    Fury literally hits 5 of the 7 reasons for a champion to lose the lineage.

    And I personally go by the OG rule of 24 months, not 18 months. And I'm not a big fan of the "top-5 contender within two years" deal, either. Nonetheless, 5 out of 7 checks. You are bordering on having to be a rabid fanboy to defend his claim at this point.
     
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  2. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's more than likely that Oscar is worried about the gypsy curse that will be put on him if he changes the rankings. Or possibly the gypsies already have him under their control.
     
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  3. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cause Fury ate it and some dung beetles rolled off with what was left to make babies in. that's according to bj saunders who coincidentally is expecting another bundle of joy announcement soon.
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's as simple as the fact that he was scheduled to rematch Wladimir within 18 months. The rematch was originally scheduled for July 9th 2016 (it was announced on April 8th, 2016) then after that fell through, it was re-scheduled on Sept 7th 2016 for Oct 29th. So going by that, he would have another 18 months from September 7th 2016 (or October 29th 2016?) to schedule another fight before being stripped of the ring belt.

    So that would give him until about March or April of 2018 to schedule another fight. As far as his retirement, I don't think he ever officially retired. I think he stated he was retired at one point, but didn't he come out the next day and deny it or someting? Obviously it was never recognized as an official retirement. As far as not scheduling a fight with a Top 5 contender, well wasn't Wladimir after losing his title to Fury a Top 5 contender when the rematch was scheduled? So that satisfies that requirement.

    And as far as testing postive for a performance-enhancing substance, if I'm not mistaken, the reason he pulled out of the Wlad rematch (correct me if I'm wrong) wasn't because he tested positive for anything but it was because he deemed himself medically unfit. I know there were rumors about him testing positive and doing drugs and all that, but I'm guessing that happened by a non-boxing related testing procedure, which wouldn't result in him losing the title since the test wasn't administered by the authority that undergoes drug testing for boxers in the lead up to fight. I'm not too sure about what he tested positive for and when that happened, this is just my best guess.
     
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  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    No he shouldn't be stripped.
     
  6. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why? They have rules... Which have been broken. Of course he should be stripped.
     
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  7. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury should have already been stripped a few months ago...I guess they didnt get around to it yet.

    And no one knows whether his hearing in December will clear him to fight or not. We know for some strange reason that he refuses to fight or get in proper shape until the UKAD thing is over, so we might as well consider him retired at this point. UKAD can draw out the investigation and hearings easily for another year....

    Tyson has created this mess himself by not getting into proper shape and getting himself licenced to fight under another jurisdiction.

    For a so called rebel, he sure is being very subservient to a jumped up kangeroo court linked to British boxing.
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's still the champ clown and until he's beaten Joshua the trinket belt holder is just that..a trinket belt holder and nothing more.
     
  9. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I never said Joshua should be the lineal champ...

    Fury should be stripped according to the rules and then the Ring #1 and #2 should fight for it.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    He isn't stripped get over it.
     
  11. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well done captain obvious.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Fury came out and admitted he'd done a ton of coke. Hell, he even sang a song about it in a van. He's a character, alright.
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    With that chain of thought, the lineage has been broken forever and it would actually be Lennox to hold it until the end of time.
     
  14. BAWA1980

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    I suppose it is up to them if they want to bend their guidelines (were these the ring guideline which were posted, or generic guidelines).
    If they feel there are extenuating circumstances, along the lines of something like a boxer being accused of taking recreational and performance Enhancing Drugs by a governing body, and then not setting any hearing dates for 18 months, or maybe an obvious case of a boxer suffering from mental illness, possible bi-polar disorder, then they might I suppose make exceptions to their guidelines.
     
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    According to Doug Fischer, who was asked about the situation in one of his "mailbags", the subject had already come up and they decided to go with the literal interpretation of the rules (not what it was actualy meant for) for the time being, meaning that they would wait with stripping him until he came up to 2 years inactive, receives a ban or actually retires.
    So they're not bending it, they're just used the "wrong" rule interpretation with Fury technically having "sceduled" fights in that period that have never taken place. Instead of having the fight sceduled within that timeframe, but happening outside of it.

    If that actually was the intended rule, Fury could scedule fights until the cows come home, and never actually fight one of the cows, but still remain champion indefinitely.