Why isn't Hopkins fighting Cloud?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Flash Jab, Jan 19, 2011.


  1. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    I imagine it seems likely Dawson/Pascal is the rematch they go with, but there seems to be no mention of a Cloud fight. He's a world champion, isn't he? And he's beatable, especially knowing how experienced Hopkins is. I figure even if he doesn't want to fight Dawson (which I still don't think he does), he'd take on Cloud and grab that world title before his retirement. And if he didn't hang them up, he could unify. That would do wonders for his resume.
     
  2. Beatle

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    BHop clearly said in his last interview on the radio that he will not fight Cloud. Why? Hopkins is no fool. He knows Cloud is the best at LHW. Cloud is a throwback to Ezzard Charles. He has handspeed and would be too difficult to dodge.
     
  3. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cloud will have a mandatory challenger shortly.
     
  4. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  5. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Before the Super 6 began, I made everyone laugh when I said Andre Ward would win it and go his entire career undefeated. Now, it doesn't sound so funny. Watch Tavoris Cloud unify the titles, then read this again.
     
  6. Flash Jab

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    Guy's the real deal, huh?
     
  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    with that said, why not the same for Bute....,go up a few pounds and get another belt rather than feed on mud fish for a 2 year period of wasted time
     
  8. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Bute's waiting. Can't blame him.

    That being said, a few flies have dropped, get a fight with Dirrell.
     
  9. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    "Mud fish"? Is that your latest off-thread-topic-Bute-trashing idea? :lol:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8682019

    Post #67. Bute won't go up, and Kessler isn't mud fish.


    ...I can't believe Beatle is actually being serious here. "Too difficult to dodge"?? For Hopkins????? Have you seen Cloud-Zuniga? FFS.
     
  10. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    He said in the 'On the Ropes Boxing Radio' interview that the phone has been ringing to fight Cloud but he does not want to fight him, not because he doesn't think he can beat Cloud but he wants the title that Pascal has as he thinks he should have been given it already. He wants to correct injustice.

    Here's the link to the interview:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-pKdCgXN7w[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJUdxgy4_iI&feature=related[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtAOwlFh40Q&feature=related[/ame]

    It's quite a lenghty interview. As you can see, it's split into 3 parts.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I agree with Beatle, you watched the man go toe to toe with Glen Johnson I don't think his toughness can be questioned, he hits like a truck, has really good handspeed, and I don't think he'll be beat anytime soon. I don't claim he can't be beat, but someone will have to show me they can beat him, because while not the most polished he is the toughest of the bunch. Hopkins doesn't want ANY of Cloud, Pascal damn sure doesn't want Cloud, Dawson might give him some trouble but eventually Cloud walks him down, Bute would be someone I could see coming up and giving him some trouble, but still losing. I don't see who you would think would beat him?
     
  12. Master Lewis

    Master Lewis Active Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    Watch more boxing young padawan.
     
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    If Pascal can drop Hopkins twice, Cloud would hurt him badly, Cloud isn't going to get bullied and pushed around by Hopkins and BHop knows that. Cloud isn't going to get outworked by Hopkins like Pascal did, he proved against Johnson that he can throw a lot of punches all fight long. Cloud is horrible for Hopkins...in my opinion.
     
  14. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Really...so can you give your list of who you rate above him? How much boxing do you watch...boxrec is moving kinda slow so you may want to try a different outlet, but to each their own. I'll wait on your reply.
     
  15. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cloud sucks...fight would be terrible, Cloud winging wide looping shots, Hopkins crouching, running in head first throwing punches before a clinch.