Why isn't Hopkins fighting Cloud?

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  1. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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  2. MrPeterson

    MrPeterson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bernard isn't doing this for fun and Cloud is all risk no reward
     
  3. Master Lewis

    Master Lewis Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah and if Bute can knock Zuniga out in 4 Cloud would be able to knock him out quicker....ohhhh wait......Zuniga have gone 12 rounds with Cloud...;)
     
  4. Master Lewis

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    THIS IS A GEM!

    Best quote to ever hit ESB....:lol:
     
  5. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Cloud would best Shumenov and Pascal. A good boxer would outbox Cloud though. He has short arms, is powerfully built, but has no defense. Cloud's power is also a little over rated due to his punching technique. Don't get me wrong he does have power. He doesn't always punch in a way that maximizes it all the time. He went from wobbling iron chinned Glen Johnson to not being able to KO Zuniga. Cloud is like a better version of Jeff Lacy.
     
  6. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    In my opinion Tavoris Cloud is way to easy to hit with right hands to beat Hopkins. BHop would just pot shot him with lead rights all night long.

    Cloud is the number one reason I would like to see Pavlik come back at 175 rather than 168, and I said that long before the Cloud/Zuniga fight. There are obvious questions about KP's power and speed at 175, but if he kept most of his power, and did not lose to much speed, it's a very winnable fight. A win would lead to bigger and better things without dicking around waiting for the S6 cluster-**** to wind down.
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    All Cloud has is power. His fight with Johnson could of gone either ways. Take Cloud's power away and what does he have? I know he's probably the biggest puncher in LHW, but I think Johnson beats him in a rematch. I think Pascal's style is actually harder for Hopkins and Hopkins did enough to beat Pascal, so I also agree Hopkins should go after Cloud and then the winner of Dawson-Pascal II. The only one I see actually beating Hopkins might be Dawson and that's a big maybe.
     
  9. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cloud will eventually rule the division. Dawson is obviously the most gifted but he just is missing the hunger and drive to rule a divison.

    How about this?
    Cloud-Dawson
    Pascal-Hopkins II

    Winners face each other the Hopkins calls it a career and retires as one of the best ever.
     
  10. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you serious?? Hopkins who is not as big as Cloud manhandled Pavlik. Cloud would be coming in the ring at about 190 and puncihng much much harder than Hopkins. Cloud TKO.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I understand where you are coming from, and I don't mean to be a Cloud hugger, he's far from perfect and I agree a really good boxer would beat him. I'm not sure that guy is fighting right now, I feel ya on Hopkins and pot shotting, but Cloud's workrate and pressure is greater than that of Pascal and I just don't think Hopkins would be able to handle a Bull like Cloud.
     
  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I agree Cloud would hurt Pavlik badly, in my opinion Pavlik and Taylor should be looking to go back down to 160, as opposed to continue going up in weight.