Why isn't Kermit Cintron criticized?

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol:


    Wow...simpleton...
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Isn't that what Mayweather has done his last two fights? And w/ Bruselles and Gatti? And Judah and Baldomir?:patsch

    Took fights that pay better over more difficult challenges?
     
  3. Gonzo

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    How the hell was taking fights for the money the case when Zab was champ and was considered by many to actually have a chance at beating Floyd and also when he beat the #1 rated WW i n the world?
     
  4. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Not related to this thread but after Saturday there will be 3 Puerto Rican WW Champions :yep
     
  5. Gonzo

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    That would be something, but it ain't happening.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

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    Child...Zab was NOT the champ when they fought. HE had just lost to a journeyman. What that tells me is, Zab was FAR from the most dangerous foe @ 147. And don't you dare talk about making 'general comments', then say something like "MANY gave Zab a chance..." Many what? Posters here? Many casual fans? Many boxers?

    Zab had a punchers chance, that's about it.

    WHat do you mean beat the #1 WW? Baldomir was #1?:huh
     
  7. Gonzo

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    I never said Zab was the man at 147.
    Zab was not completly focused for the Baldomir fight.
    Many posters on here picked Zab to beat Floyd because they thought Zab was back mentally and he was for that fight.
    Zab had way more than a punchers chance in that fight.
    He won 3 of the first 4 rounds and I'm pretty sure people were starting to think Floyd would probably lose this fight.
    And Baldomir was the #1 WW in the world.
    Baldomir was the linear champion.
     
  8. eze

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    Brussles was an elim to Gatti. Zoo like you said was on Showtime so even if Floyd wanted to fight Zoo (which he did) it was impossible. So he went after Gatti the other belt holder. He called out Hatton but Hatton declined.

    Judah, the contract was signed.

    Baldomir had the lineal title.

    BUT you want it both ways which you cant have.
     
  9. eze

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    Arum is the sole reason Cotto hasn't fought a big puncher since being exposed by Corley. Yea he fought Torres. They didn't do their homework and Torres took the fight late notice. And exposed Cotto even more.

    Judah was the next big puncher but he was on a long lay off and not the same fighter. And Cotto cheated to take some sting out of Judahs punches after being stunned a few times.
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

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    How was Zab not focused? Was he NOT winning and boxing well in the Baldomir fight? Yesm UNTIL HE WAS CLOCKED HARD. So, am I to believe Judah was focused for the first half, then he became unfocused for the rest? Well, that's partly true because Baldomir cold cocked the focus OUT of him.

    Oh great...MANY posters picked Zab to win. Big deal. ESB polls are pointless to use as some sort of proof. If you've been here long enough, you would know.

    Zab is a fast starter, in case you did not know. Yeah, he started out well vs. Floyd. But that means squat really. Judah started well vs. Kostya Tszyu. Stared well vs. Demarcus Corley amnd varely won. Stated well vs. Raphael Pineda and BARELY won. DLH started well against him too. Some fighters use the first few rounds to feel out their opponent. Zab looks to want to blitz his out early.

    Baldomir was the Linear champ, true. But he was NOT the best WW in the world. All he did was beat a space cadet in Zab. Hell, look at Zab's resume @ 147. Aside from beating Corey Spinks Zab hasn;t even done anything to show he was a top WW. ANYONE xan win tghe World Title in the right circumstances. Baldomir proved that. But what you do WITH the belt is what makes you the best.

    Baldomir had done NOTHING that stands out prior to fighting Judah, and aside from beating Gatti, did nothing after either. He was a 36YO Journeyman who was talking of retirement for christs sake.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    YEs...we KNOW Brussles.....blah blah...Gatti....blah blah. Nothing new there...:roll:

    If you are going to reply to me, at least have the courtesy to understand what I am saying.

    You can't deny those were fights more for money. And THAT is what my post was about. I'm not trying to have anything both ways. You just don't understand much.
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    Wrong. Eze...you're just wrong pretty much all the time.

    I guess Judah isn't a puncher? because of a layoff? Funny, becuase everyone knows power is one of the last things you lose. And you said Arum was afraid tp put him with a puncher did you not? The fact that Arum put him w/ Judah already disspells your BS.

    Shane? Oh yeah, according to you, Shane isn't a puncher either. :roll:
     
  13. Gonzo

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    Zab was clearly not focused.
    Even though he won the first half of the fight, you could tell he wasn't doing it like a focused fighter should.
    Baldomir did beat Clottey before he fought Zab.
    Zab beat the man to be the man and that's what he did when he beat Spinks.
    Baldomir beat the man to be the man so he was the #1 WW in the world at the time.
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

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    How was he CLEARLY not focused, when he was winning the fight UNTIL HE WAS CLOCKED HARD? Explain that if you can.

    Oh please, like you saw Baldiomir vs. Clottey? Clottey was nearly shutting him out, something Zab could not come CLOSE to doing, until Clottey was DQ'd.

    Child, Baldomir beat ONE guy. It takes more then one win to be considered the best.
     
  15. eze

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    Power does go last. But how can you have power be in effect when you are being low blowed intentionally twice. Cotto low blowed Judah to take away from power.


    Shane is NOT a big puncher. The last TKO he had besides a completely shot and done Vargas was 2001.