Why isn't Kermit Cintron criticized?

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  1. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member Full Member

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    You still didn't answer my question. So really, Margo's best win is over an overrated fighter.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You asked a loaded question, that much is obvious. Really, what does it matter who Cintron beat? We can ask, "Who did Shane Mosley beat before beating DLH." Or better yet, "Who did Mayweather beat before beating Genero Hernandez (time to look it up kid?). Hey, who did Buster Douglas beat before beating Tyson. Point is, what does it really matter?

    Look Gonzo...it's getting more and more obivous that you are just a child. You make NO POINTS, and don't seem to know about any boxer, other then Mayweather. And it doesn't appear you really know much about Mayweather either. Yes, you can point out his wins, or that he has excellent skill :roll:, but that doesn't mean you know anything. You are yet to even demonstrate you know much about boxing. You're just an argumentative kid who's overly protective of Floyd Maywweather Jr., and will lash out on anyone who doesn't share your overzealous love for him.
     
  3. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    Gonzo, you are bringing a plastic spoon to a gun fight involving a guy with a nuclear arsenal. Get my drift? If so, run and live to learn another day before getting into firefights that make you look foolish and amateurish.

    This is not flaming as much as it is stone cold facts laced with tough love type advice.
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Floyd offered Margarito a fight after Judah lost to Baldomir. Margarito had one month before the fight would of taken place and opted to decline and not even tell Floyd, that he would want to fight him after. He just plain out said no. Floyd was checking his options before going through with the Judah fight, if Margarito would of accepted Floyd could of voided his contract because Judah lost and set up to fight Margarito who would of had plenty of time to prepare for Floyd (it would of been like the start of a new camp). Arum could of easily found a replacement for his crappy PPV. BTW Margo was making 400,000 fighting Gomez. He would of easily made 2-3mil AT LEAST fighting Floyd. Since Margo declined Floyd went through with the Judah fight. After the Judah fight, Arum throws offers at Floyd while Floyd was injured. They wanted a fight ASAP. Floyd declined to let his hand heal. Once Floyd started exploring his options once he healed. Floyd bought himself out of contract with Arum and decided fighting Baldomir, which made sense, money wise and lineal title wise. Arum once he heard of Floyd opting to fight Baldomir, started spitting out no option deals to try to hype Margo even more.

    There was never a no option deal, Arum said it to make Floyd seem afraid of Margo. Arum is the biggest liar in the sport. Worse the Don King. Note how he praised Floyd and Oscar while they were with him, but as soon as they left, he hated them and all he did was talk down on them. He lost a lot of money, and he has done nothing but rag on both since then.
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Give it a rest man. You can re-creat the situation any way you like. But you;re obviously assuming WAAY too much here to make an argument worth doing. Not to mention, you flat out refuse to acknowledge any other facts of the situation. You can pretend they didn't exist if you want.



    :patsch

    Floyd ACKNOWLEDGED THE OFFER MORON....

    "Arum is the biggest liar in sports".... Can yo tell us WHAT lies he's said? Dude, YOU ARE A ****IN LAIR YOURSELF. You flat out lied about what I've posted. And you lied about the PPV #'s.

    How can you say that about Arum, and yet, kiss DLH's ass on what he said? You say DLH was looking at Cotto or Mayweather, as some sort of PROOF that if DLH- Mayweather hadn't happened, DLH - Cotto would. BULL****!!!

    DLH said he'd retire by 30. Said he'd retire if he lost to Mosley. Retire if he lost top Hopkins. Retire if he lost to Mayweather. Get a ****in grip Eze....you're pathetic.:patsch
     
  6. Gonzo

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    ;)
     
  7. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member Full Member

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    And yet all you are doing is protecting your little boyfriend without making any valid points.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Assumptions? :patsch Margo was offered a fight, he declined. Arum offers Floyd a fight while Floyd is hurt. Floyd then decides between Margo and Baldomir. Chooses Baldomir for the better money and lineal title.

    "Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth"- Bob Arum

    Arum lied about the PPV numbers with margo-gomez. He said it broke 100k, it did 25-30k. He said Cotto-Mosley did 400+ it did 360k.


    He even said, the most blatent lie of them all. That they would have nothing to do with Cintron unless he was fight Clottey or if he vacated. And whats he do, makes a fight with Cintron against Margo.

    I stand by what I said you posted unless you prove me wrong, its what I remember being said. And The Golden CEO himself said, DLH wants Floyd in a rematch and if he cant get that he wants Cotto.

    DLH has always got what he has wanted. If DLH had not got Mayweather, he would of got Cotto. Cotto's management wanted it more than they wanted Mayweather.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He's trying tp help you from looking like all the other Maywather idiots who come and go, or who talk w/o even knowing what they are talking about.

    Last thing thig board needs is a 14YO who doesn't know ****, acting like he's the ****.
     
  10. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member Full Member

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    And yet you still have not answered my question.
     
  11. istmeno

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    at least try to get the timeline straight when you post b.s. the 8 million dollar no options offer came off of the table when margarito signed to fight clottey. only after that fight was signed, did pbf start to make an effort to get a fight with spinks. after that did not work out di he look at baldomir.

    so your statement that arum started talking about no options after he heard about the baldomir fight is a crock of **** since at the time the baldomir fight was signed, there was no offer on the table from arum.

    get your lies straight.
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    And you refuse to acknowledge it was NOT a legit offer from Mayweather. And how do we know that? For one, he waited will 2 weeks before Margarito's own fight. But of course, you will just say they could have easily called it off right? Only idiots like you would say that w/o realizing how much money Arum already spent or would lose. You don't cancel a fight at a venue thats ALREADY sold tickets. Or when you ALREADY have a PPV date set up with the cable programmers.

    Yes, guys have paid step aside money (if you are going to go that route), but that usually comes during negotiations. NOT a mere 2 weeks before the scheduled event.

    So what? I asked what he's lied about. YOU SAY he's the biggest liar in sports? At least I SUPPLIED stuff DLH has lied about. WHy don't you do the same.

    Ask yourself this: Did he say those KNOWING the #'s? Or, seeing as you hate Arum so much, do you automatically assume he's lying?


    That's no a lie. You SHOULD know fights get made and broke on the same day. You take the fights you can. And if that changes on a day to day basis, that's how the business works.

    Oh, you can give vague statements on what Arum says, but NOW you need proof.

    I don't care what DLH says regarding Cotto. That does NOT mean the fight would be made in 6 months. For Cotto - DLH, they would build it up over a year, with a tune up first, most likley how DLH - Hopkins went. ThAT is how you make the most money.


    :roll:
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You didn't read a single word I posted did you? :-(

    Like I said, you make TOOO many assumptions, and are too closed minded on this issue. And you base most of your arguments on those assupmtions. Not to mention, as istmeno said, you have no grasp of the timeline. You're useless in other words. Stick to cheerleading better posters.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol: Arum was spitting out what he called no option deals. Do we know they truly were? The only deals that made big news were the ones that he wanted options on. Im pretty sure they would of been bigger news had Arum truly had a no option deal.


    And I never said Arum was spitting out no option fights when Floyd signed to fight Baldomir, I said he spit them out when he HEARD Floyd was opting to fight Baldomir.