WHY IS'NT Pacquiao's life and death fights with Marquez taken into consideration

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  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I replied to the point he was making.
     
  2. di tullio

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    you could make an argument that marquez is than castillo, who almost everyone who isn't a floyd fan thinks floyd lost to.
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I lost you there?
     
  4. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    its irrelevent..

    mayweather was beating up on Pac's leftovers.
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah.....It's gonna be competitive win loos or draw for Floyd or Manny. No one is going to dominate b/c they are not facing guys a level or 2 beneath themselves. Floyd and Manny are on par regarding their ability and talent. They have different styles that match up well for each other but also provides many problems. Therefore I see a good close competitive fight with the winner getting a UD.

    I think Manny pulls it out but could be wrong. Hell I could be wrong if I felt Floyd would win this one.. A toss up fight in my opinion.
     
  6. di tullio

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    yeah it was a little nonsensical, my bad. someone can't make a claim that because manny had tough fights with marquez, that floyd would win because he's better than marquez. they're styles are very different. the first pac-morales fight is more relevent because of style similarities. saying that pac would lose to floyd because he's better than marquez is like saying floyd would lose to marquez because he's better than castillo.
     
  7. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morales defense is about as similar to Floyd's as his haircut is to Don Kings.

    Morales used to be a certifiable wrecking machine. He didn't look like a wrecking machine when I watched him get outboxed by David Diaz. Diaz is so ****ing slow Betty White would have slipped at least couple of his punches before getting tagged, but there was Morales leg shot, standing toe to toe with him all night.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marquez lost twice to Manny...he got a gift draw due to a scoring issue. Fights are not won by the number of rounds won...but the actual score card based on more effective agression and damage inflicted which PAC clearly inflicted more.
     
  9. di tullio

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    watch the first pac-morales fight. actually watch it.
     
  10. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Three judges and most people who are not Patards feel Floyd won the fight. I'd be willing to bet my car you never even saw the fight.
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Pacquiao's strategy will be totally different for this fight. His style and advantages have shifted since he has gone up in weight, and Marquez's consistency in counter-aggression also played a factor.

    Floyd is a defense-first counter with great accuracy but the pace, strategies, and overall dynamics for his fight against floyd are pretty different. Avoiding right-hand counters and rushing in are basic but the only points that the two fights will share.
     
  12. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know how fights are scored **** for brains. Marquez took a lot of rounds off the golden ****. That's all I'm saying
     
  13. Chris Hansen

    Chris Hansen Member Full Member

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    Just like Pac was beating up on Mayweather's leftovers (DLH, Hatton)

    Sure is ******* double standard in here.
     
  14. di tullio

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    i've seen it many times. castillo stalked floyd for two rounds. muscled him in the third. floyd bounced around castillo for the fourth despite getting man handled and tagged a few times. castillo was punching floyd on the ropes in the fifth and six while floyd landed few counterpunches. in the seventh castillo landed a large number of power punches while floyd was on the ropes and floyd landed a few punches while moving away. the ninth and eleventh are rounds you could say went floyd's way.

    three judges also gave ramirez a win over whitaker and chavez a draw. bottom line, it's an opinion game and everyone has one.
     
  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Be easy sweet heart...don't get all upset you sissy. I'm just stating the obvious b/c you seemed to be stuck on stupid. Why bring up a dismal point about JMM winning more rounds to try and support your stance? It was Waste of time for you. But I guess i can see that not being an issue.