Why isn't RJJ's victory over James Toney more highly rated

Because James was 186, on IV drips etc and Jones didn't try to stop him or rematch him.

 

Yes, and this was no conspiracy built over the years. From nearly the moment the first bell rung, it was clear Toney had lost the fight on the scales.


Not RJJ's fault, it was Toney and his team's unprofessionalism, but it did help explain the result and thus Jones did not get the kudos on paper it deserves.

 

It was absurd the condition he was said to be in six weeks out - 222lb or something

 

He stopped training after Prince Charles and stayed in eating pizza, peanut butter jelly sandwiches, potato chips (crisps in UK), chocolate, sweets and drinking coke all day watching daytime TV, football and basketball so said someone in the camp.

 

I thought he got credit. He should have. Regardless of the excuses he beat James convincingly. I don't think anyone really wanted a rematch after that.

 

James did, as he stated constantly. But a weight or two up

 

I think it was a punch perfect masterclass. The difference Toney experienced with Jones and Nunn was, that while Nunn had speed Nunn also made loads of mistakes. Where as Jones didn't put a foot wrong. There was nothing for Toney to hit. Toney put on 16lbs of water weight after the weigh in but loads of boxers do similar these days. The IV drip will have helped rehydrate him fully.

The other thing is he took Toney's soul that night. Toney wasn't quite the same after that loss.

 

He gets loads of credit.

In fact some people actually believe Jones is a H2H monster who can't be beaten from 160 to 175 lol

 

Some people are claiming Roy’s resume is better than Mayweather or Pacquiao’s, so credit must have been given.

 

I give him a lot of credit.
It was a great win. He dominated.

Toney had looked excellent at 168 just 4 months earlier against Prince Charles Williams and the RJJ fight was already lined up, so weight-making excuses are just excuses.

Toney was a very good fighter but RJJ was a GREAT fighter.

 

Victories that are that dominant often doesn't get their fair due since people probably have a hard time believing it.

 

Well, that also has to with that he also gave guys like Tate, Malinga, Sosa, Griffin, Hill and Johnson hidings they never got from anyone else. And Hopkins wouldn't lose as clearly again for 20 years as he did against Jones.