Why isn't there a Margarito v Williams II on the horizon?

He was pointing out that OVERRATED fighter beat guys more clearly DESPITE being hurt and overrated, then the best P4P fighter. His inclusion of Floyd was to counter your point about Cotto being overrated.


Good luck hunting the bitches man!! :thumbsup

 

How did I insult Floyd? By saying Cotto knocked out three of their common opponents that Floyd went the distance with that is far from an insult, if you say that Cottos over rated, then that makes Floyd over hyped in comparison simply based on the fact that, that over rated Cotto stopped three common opponents that Floyd went the distance with, thus meaning Floyd is then over Hyped if he cant get done what an over rated fighter was able to get done.

 

Floyd isnt a ko artist...Not knocking people out dont stop you from being a great fighter...What a moronatsch

 

you are correct, and nobody said that, what I said is if Cotto is over rated, or atleast was then Floyd must be over hyped because when you look at how Cotto delt with his common opponents in compairision to Floyd, you will see obviously that Cotto was not at all over rated.

 

Hatton KO'd JLC, PBF couldnt even get JLC outta there in 24 rounds, I guess Hatton is better ha?

 

That was one common opponent which is not the case with Cotto who has three. Big difference.

 

Williams knew at the time that he could not go tit for tat with Margarito. Nobody can between those 3 weight divisions.

Cotto played right into Margarito's game and when he did try and change up Margarito still got him.

Even Daniel Santos went through hell trying to play the counter puncher game. Understand this. Nobody has an easy night with Margarito. He can and likely will beat most guys he fights. Even at the top level.

When the day comes that Margarito rematches either Clottey or Williams I fully expect some haters to be silenced. I am that confident that he will show you up.

 

he wont fight Williams because one more loss with effectively any chance he has of making max money. He lost to a 24 year old Williams, basically Williams won 8-9 rounds of him. If Margarito has slowed one bit he'd be endanger of being blown out by a much improved Williams. He's going to make sure he gets max profit for he gets shown up again. He wont fight Clottey either for the same reason. If he cant use his massive size advantage, his chances of winning shrink immensely.

 

Clottey is no more of a threat than Mosley. He's good but not that good.

And Williams doesn't scare Margarito. They simply showed up overconfident with the wrong gameplan. Williams definately won it, but he didn't embarrass Margarito nor did he have an easy night. 9 rounds is a **** card btw. Get on your real name.

 

What gameplan should they have used?

 

I scored the fight a draw. Clottey was sweeping the fight until he hurt his hand. He also landed the harder blows, Margarito won purely on activity.

Margarito gameplan? :rofl:rofl:rofl You mean, coming forward and swinging. Yeah he should of went into his boxer puncher mode we've all seen before.

Complete nonsense. Margarito is what he is. If he doesnt have a size advantage he struggles. He beat Cotto precisely because of his power and size advantage. Agianst guys like Clottey, Santos and Williams he struggled because they cant take his punches. And given that Margo typically takes 2 punches to land 1, he gets beat. Williams virtually swept the first 6-7 rounds. The 115-113 scorecards were terrible. He won by atleast 8-4.

 

Margarito has only one way to fight and Williams is gaining experience. Margarito's people do not want this. Fact is that Margarito does well with smaller welterweights, which tells you Shane might want to work the heavy bag and get stronger..

 

I don't understand why people keep thinking Margarito is gonna do some big transformation if he rematches Williams.

He has one speed, plodding slowly forward, losing the first few rounds, until the opponent, who is seldom as conditioned as he is, wears down. Then he takes the fight over and beats them into submission or overwhelms them for a decision. It ain't changed in 18 years of fighting, and it won't change now.

Problem with that strategy, Williams is just as conditioned, and even outlasted him in the 12th while Margo was clearly gassed. And Williams can take plenty of his punches without being phased. Plenty. And he is strong enough to push Margo and create space with his arms instead of having to use his legs. And he's gaining experience and power. Bad match up for the Tornado.

And that first fight was 8-4 at least. No doubt.

 

They should have worked to get closer and work Paul's body. Margarito neglected that much too often early on in the fight and he spent alot of time head hunting with big shots.

When you do that you tire yourself out as well. The trick is to mix up alot of punches with one or two solid punches. That's what Margarito does best. Watch his fights with Cotto and Cintron and tell me you don't see a difference in his approach.

It wasn't like Margarito didn't hit Paul flush. He did many times. He just thought he could knock Williams out but Wiliams is too big for that. Margarito just needs to outwork him, score score and score somemore.

 

AM did everything right, he was robbed!