Why isnt Wilfredo Gomez in the Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame?

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  1. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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  2. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hear you.

    The world better pray I never get a hand on a substantial amount of money, because I refuse to die before the Ambling Alp and first of Carneras sees himself posthumously inducted into the hall of fame where he belongs.
     
  3. Rollin

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    Gomez was fantastic.
     
  4. AntonioMartin1

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    Right.

    To me in Gomez's case its puzzling..he went something like 10-1 in Las Vegas...

    Fernando Vargas is in and he lost 2 or 3 there..
     
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    He was a beast..
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Wilfredo Gomez is someone I’ve never been overly fond of - the Zarate fight made me sour on him, his behaviour was very poor. I also think his style isn’t particularly enjoyable he just happened to hit hard. Overall a good pro but I don’t know if he really stuck out much in the history of boxing (to me) but yeah there’s Vargas in… He deserves it by there standards but as a historical fighter I don’t think he was very special.
     
  7. Journeyman92

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    Saint Carnera was canonised he’s above that nonsense. Watch less study the holy scrolls more.
     
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    Oddly enough I have a sense of sorrowful admiration for Carnera.

    He had the guts of getting in the ring and sometimes took horrific beatings but kept getting up for more, such as in the Baer fight.

    I don't think he belongs in the Hall of Fame, however.

    But he gets my respect for being the courageous person he was. Probably not knowing his fights were fixed, he went in and went for the glory, something not all of us have the guts to do. He then fought the very best of his era, all the way to Joe Louis who quite frankly, was at the top of the all time lists of many just 4 years later. And then he withstood the glare of the negative press with dignity later on, managing several businesses until he died of type 1 diabetes which as you all know I have and let me tell you its not a walk in the park.

    Plus as far as I know, nothing bad was ever said about him.

    He might belong in the Hall of Fame of courage in life and in boxing, but not in the actual hall of fame, I think.

    or, to put it more positively, he might not belong in the actual hall of fame, but he might belong in the hall of fame of courage in life and boxing, i think.

    As far as Gomez, he is the Santos Laciar of the NBHOF. The reason this HOF iis a joke is he is not in, IMNSHO.
     
  9. Rollin

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    Mafia had fingers in a lot more of matchmaking that just some of Carnera bouts. Those were the times. Ironically much of the Primo bad reputation erupted from his trainer/manager conflict with some of the press.

    Carnera had an enormous heart (metaphorically speaking) and was a tremendous, tremendous athlete with strength, recuperative power, and true fifteen rounds gas tank. He might not impress with his body mechanics, but he had a solid sense of when and how, could jab your head off, and would work inside like a roid-raging bull when he had his opponent off-balances, with broken posture, or simply to fend off aggression. A lot of his nuance also comes from his long guard and control game, and it was quite beautiful given how accomplished as a wrestler he was later on. Benny Leonard noted on it as well.

    Decent Johnson-esque right biceps clinch to boot. Lets you work during those dragging embraces.

    The gist is tho—the man raised himself from an abject, miserable poverty and became the champion of the world in era of single belt. He had the names on his resume (bigger men than himself as well, ironically), he had the belt and defenses, and he was an example of supreme dedication.

    Yet you find second-rate boxing "media" and "sites" calling him one of the worst champions in history and a giant fraud.

    Disgraceful.