Why Ive been on ESB so long and why I finally realized that most posters......

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Toopretty, Sep 8, 2007.


  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    And it thinks it's funny too:hey
     
  2. Dantes

    Dantes ESB Magnate Full Member

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    When you're done talking about yourself..we'll get back to talking boxing...poser.:good
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, Bigtime.

    Go back and read your post. I'll save you the trouble:



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    You made a flat-out statement without qualifiers like quality of opposition.
    The only logical inference you can take from your statement is that because Floyd is undefeated, no-one can successfully argue his greatness.

    You further imply that were he to lose, then his greatness would be open for debate.

    You make no mention of opponent calibre, until the flaw in your reasoning is pointed out. You even reinforce the FLAW in your argument by making the point that Hatton too, is undefeated and yet we CAN debate his greatness ( thus reinforcing the logical flaw in your earlier post ).

    You've in advertantly dug yourself into a hole. The fact is, we CAN debate the greatness of Floyd EVEN THOUGH he is undefeated. We can debate the quality of his opposition, the fairness of the decisions, the margins of victory etc.

    I believe Floyd is the best currently active boxer, but I would not consider his undefeated status as closing all possibility of debate.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    He called ME the same thing.

    He's been on here for about a week and he knows everything about everyone.

    Just shows how clueless some folks are.
     
  5. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sure you are..once again who did marcaino defeat at heavyweight besides an old joe louis worth mentioning. you're better off comparing marciano to valuev they are similar in fighting style.:rofl


    sure and marciano fought heavy's like foreman, frazier, ali, liston and norton:deal


    diego corrales and jose luis castillo were both prime and elite in their weightclass. now that I've named 2 please name 1 for marciano:deal


    once again you lose :-(
     
  6. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    once again for the simple people like yourself..who would be favored to beat floyd from 154-140:deal you can talk all day about qualifiers but the bottom line is pure dominance and that is what you are witnessing from 154-140 floyd is the ruler of those weightclasses:rofl



    for people like you not for me.



    please save the semantics for those of lesser intellect:deal bottom line is that floyd has defeated more ring champs then any active fighter:deal while remaining undefeated. are you questioning floyd's position as the best fighter of our generation if so you better come with more than word play:deal


    debate away and get tore a new *******:hey

    once again what are you debating bring it all out in the open:deal did floyd feast at the bottom of the ring rankings or did he feast at the top in winning his titles:roll:
     
  7. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. Irish Steel

    Irish Steel Active Member Full Member

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  9. nrgetic

    nrgetic Active Member Full Member

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    One thing that annoys me most are the arm chair experts who like most critics never had the talent to compete at an elite level but compensate by denigrating and ridiculing those that do. Its great to have passion, wit and humour and there are some really funny ******* on this forum that really add a lot but there are so many ill informed contributors that love dumping **** on fighters as though they have committed some moral indiscretion. ****, I bet $10k on Taylor to KO Ouma, Taylor didn't do it but that life, he failedto perform as he should have but that doesn't reflect he is a bad person. Haters suck - tell me why he didn't do it on technical grounds! I am sure a lot of fighters that might have technical and skill limit are having a crack and doing there best so why talk as though they are bums!
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're still not getting it Bigtime. It appears you're not that bright.
    Just to attempt to lay it all out for you one more time, let's look at the post where you made the logical error:

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    What you're saying there is that Floyd 's greatness cannot be debated BECAUSE HE IS UNDEFEATED. I (and others) have already shown you that one can be undefeated and still have their greatness questioned. You were even good enough yourself to provide an example (Hatton) which DISPROVED your own post.

    Then you write:


    What the **** has this to do with anything?

    Are you that stupid?

    We are not arguing about who can or can't beat Floyd at 140 or i54 or any other weight.

    I am pointing out to you that, contrary to what you said in the first post, being undefeated does not prove greatness. That argument you have lost, plain and simple.

    You ****ed up in your statement as to why Floyd's greatness could not even be debated.. When that ****-up was pointed out to you, you backtracked and introduced qualifiers (like the quality of opposition a fighter has faced) that were not there in your original post.


    Then you say:

    What you're saying here is that when he loses, then we can have the debate. When that's pointed out to you, you write:

    It was YOU who wrote it, ****wit. Not me.

    It's not my problem if you can't understand your own post.


    Then finally you spout the following piece of irrelevent drivel:
    (Little smilies throughout your post don't strengthen your excuse for an argument. They just illustrate your level of development)

    You don't have the intellect to understand the implications of your own post, much less the rebuttals to your gigantic gaps in logic.


    And what the **** are we to make of this gem:


    And finally another indication that you don't understand what the argument is about:

    So, to summarize it all for your tiny brain to grasp:

    I am not debating Floyd's greatness, nor his competition, nor Marciano's nor Hatton's nor who Floyd would beat at whatever weight.

    I am pointing out the error of the stupid sentence in your first post:

    If it's not clear to you by now, then your pitiful lack of logic renders you beyond remediation or explication and I'm in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


    He defeated guys on Norton's level, definitley.


    Both are vastly overrated as well. They don't compare P4P to Jersey Joe, Charles or Moore, even if all were past their best.


    I can see why they bother, you're entertaining.
     
  12. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well there you go . . . you said it yourself. :yep

    So what's your problem? Some of these posters are not even boxing fans. So . . . learn to live by it. :D

    "If you can't take the heat . . . then get out of the kitchen." :hi:
     
  13. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like the way you think. Can you give me your opinion about this.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14492