Why Jack Dempsey should be hightly rated

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  1. C. M. Clay II

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    Dempsey was a better puncher than both McCall and Rahman. Lewis wouldn't be able to handle his speed and power.
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    as expected a thread on Dempsey can't go with three or so pages with other fighters being mentioned and then turning into another hate thread" so and so fighter would crush him" blah blah blah. This thread is to discuss Dempsey only so let's keep it that way
     
  3. Woddy

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    Lewis was also a better puncher, boxer and overall athlete than just about everyone Dempsey ever fought. It works both ways. I also clearified in my other post that Lewis was 35 against Rahman, and the McCall fight wasn't exactly a clear cut knockout either.
     
  4. Woddy

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    Okay let's keep it to Dempsey then.

    Did you know that Dempsey fought a journeman named Willie Meehan 5 times in his career and only came up with a win once? :yep
     
  5. dmt

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    did u know how badly he was robbed especially in their last fight? :yep :good
     
  6. janitor

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    Power on its own is about as formidable as a wet letuce.

    What Dempsey had that made him so firmidable was power combined with incredible technique and delivery. There is no puncher like Dempsey in heavyweight history. There might be middleweights with similar technique. There might be heavyweights who are as good in a diferent way like Louis or Tyson.

    Dempsey could absolutely destroy any human being that he could land on with any consistency.
     
  7. Woddy

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    Why don't you post the footage, given that you sound so sure of yourself as though you've seen it? Then I can decide for myself.
     
  8. janitor

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    That cuts both ways.

    In any event it was little more than an exhibition. Meehan refused several offers to meet Dempsey in a ten rounder. An no Meehan was not a journeyman.
     
  9. dmt

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    well upwithevil posted newspaper reports of how bad a decision it was, there is no film of these fights.

    Meehan was a slick and speedy boxer who wasn't bad. He had after all beaten Sam Langford and Jack Dillion if i am not wrong, hall of famers. His fights with Dempsey were four rounders and he didn;t want longer fights. The two "draws" and the last fight in particular were badly booed by the crowd
     
  10. janitor

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    Meehan is a fascinating fighter in his own right.

    He basicaly made a career out of beating hall of famers in four rounders.
     
  11. Woddy

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    I thnk that the quality of an athletes abilities has to be measured based on who he actually applied them against. Dempsey's opposition was about 5 levels below Lewis's.
     
  12. Woddy

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    I think Meehan was a journeyman.
     
  13. janitor

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    I disagree.
     
  14. janitor

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    Then you either dont know what a journeyman is or dont know who Meehan was.

    Journeymen dont regularly fight the best of their era on even terms.
     
  15. Woddy

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    Precisely why this thread has existed needlessly for so long.