Why Jack Dempsey should be hightly rated

Thank you, Mendoza, for this wonderful post. Each point you mention is meaty stuff and spot-on regarding a great who, as you say, was that rare two-fisted power puncher with good boxing fundamentals, speed, chin, stamina, heart and charismatic aura.

I learn just by watching Dempsey a few seconds on those old films. As you say, in contrast to other names, he grows bigger in estimation when you compare the hype to the film. This guy was the real deal.

 

That fight was in San Franciso. The SF library has microfilm of five newspapers which covered the fight. Four of them had Meehan winning.

Off the newspaper description, Meehan was not a jab and move guy, but a swarmer who came forward and threw a great many slap punches. The reporters commented that Dempsey was not nearly as effective with a fighter who carried the fight to him.

 

Thank you Old Fogey.

Its nice to see someone who actually uses references to support his arguments, rather than some who merely argue from pure emotion and nothing else.

I'd sure like to see dmt respond to this.

 

Fight reports would be worth looking at.

 

If this is true, then it looks like DMT's been hitchin' a ride with Janitor to Liarsville. :yep

 

i don't know OLD FOGEY, i read that this was more of an exhibition fight, and that Meehan was knocked down during it.

 

Hey what's wrong with lying? If you're creative enough, you can defend just about anything in the world that you want to.

DMT is learning the trade quite well.

 

here's one quote by eric jorgensen of cbz " Oh, yeah, the 5th fight in 1919. Bear with me whilst I set the stage here: it was a benefit for the U.S. Navy (contemporary accounts call it an "exhibition", in fact), Meehan was in the Navy, and the crowd was comprised almost entirely of Naval personnel. Due to the spirit of the proceedings and his friendship with Meehan, Dempsey adopted a pretty relaxed attitude in this fight, but not so relaxed that he didn't again dominate completely, chasing Meehan all over the ring, even dropping him (perhaps accidentally) for a count in the 2nd. There was no question that Dempsey was by far the better man that night. But, there was also no question whose hand the referee and sole judge would raise at the end. They say the crowd of cadets went wild. . . ."

 

Of course, anytime a blemish shows up on the record of a perceived all time great, then its automatically an exhibition right. In that case, why don't we just call Tyson-Douglas an exhibition. Or Ali Spinks an exhibition.

What about the other 4 meetings that Dempsey had with Meehan, including the one where Dempsey actually got a "W"? Were they exhibitions to?

 

i said i read it was an exnhibiton, i didn't say i was 100 percent sure

 

Who wrote this and what's it taken from?

 

What's more, does it account for the results of Dempsey and Meehan's other 4 meetings?

 

it's taken from Cyber boxing zone, i did not make anything up, all i said it this is what i found

 

It reads like a quote from someone who witnessed the bout "there's no question Dempsey won" but then the "they say the cadets went wild" seems to contradict this presence.

 

I'm talking about the original quote. Who's saying this stuff?