Why Johnson didn't fought black fighters while beinh KW champion?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Dude, I understand you have man love for this guy, but I have posted this report before. Gunboat Smith had Johnson down, and badly dazed to the point where his manager stepped into the ring and stopped the fight. That is a TKO. There was no title shot for Gunboat after this, even though he earned it by beating FOUR fighters Johnson gave title shots to.

    Read and deny:

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  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont think there was big money for a black/black fight at the time...remember blacks were not big ticket buyers at the time for ovious reasons.....Johnson fought the fights were he was offered the money like Dempsey and remember why Jeffries came back after 6 yrs off at the age of 36 (losing 100lbs with no tune-up) FOR Money...the Whites were paying to see Johnson beat
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Jack Johnson was a shitty individual ,he double crossed a lot of people ,showed a marked lack of loyalty to those that helped him ,including ,Frank Childs,and several of his managers. He was a preening peacock who strutted , and antagonized just about everyone. Compared to Jeannette and Langford he was an arsehole . That does not take anything away from his ability as a fighter,Johnson was an enigma, he refused to help Jack Blackburn when he came out of prison for cutting a man, yet paid for Sam Mcvey's funeral expenses.Jack Johnson was ultimately true to only one thing himself.My hero as a boxer was Dempsey ,and in my lifetime Ali.I just like to keep the truth out there .Gunboat Smith gave a taped interview to Pete Heller in March 1970 .I'll take his word over a news clipping.PS, you cannot have a tko ,or any other decision in a sparring session which Old Fogey has allready pointed out to you. A little bit of knowledge for you, Smith sparred with Ketchel in the morning and Johnson in the afternoon ,and he was still in the USS Navy. This must be the only time a sparring partner sparred with both protagonists involved in a heavweight title fight ,especially as it was on the same day,Plus Smith was still in the service.
    If there is a TKO anywhere here, I think it is you that has just suffered it!:yikes