Why Lomachenko was robbed..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Quina74, Oct 18, 2020.

  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah all of the rounds he won were not even as convincing as Teofimo's. I'd give it to Lopez close but clearly.
     
  2. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No robbery. The right man won.
     
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  3. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Active Member Full Member

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    You don't score a round in bits and pieces; you score the entire round. Note that this includes moments when neither fighter is landing, so you factor in things like who is more active, who is coming forward and making the fight, etc. Loma got outhustled and noted as much himself after the fight. The key in rounds 1-6 was that Loma wasn't countering. He was blocking but not countering, and his small moments of offense weren't enough to compensate for his lack of activity.

    It was an easy fight to score with very little acceptable variance. I would say 6-6 is a bad score, as is 9-3. Fortunately, most everyone had it 7-5 or 8-4.

    Also, OP's rationale for discounting body shots relative to head shots is silly.
     
  4. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I watched it using the fast forward feature and at the end it showed Teo won.
     
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  5. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You just had to turn off Ward.....gave Loma round 2 when he threw 2 punches?!?
     
  6. Jimmy Elders

    Jimmy Elders Ha ha bye bye intentional cuck banned Full Member

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    Bro this thread is absolutely pathetic

    lomachenko won 4 rounds now STFU
     
  7. demigawd

    demigawd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He landed a three punch combination, but that was his only offense. I didn't personally give that round to Loma, but it was an overall low activity round, so I could understand why someone would give it to him just off of that sequence.

    But listen, Teo could have stopped Loma and there would be threads here by the same posters claiming that upon slow motion review the KO was caused by rabbit punches and headbutts and demanding an immediate reversal in the results.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C F 12 Stay Dangerous Full Member

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    Post this under your real username next time and not an alt.
     
  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Member Full Member

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    This is exactly what I was doing scoring the entire round . It appears to me all you guys attempting to debate weren't.

    Dude I've commented this a few times and of course I took this factors into account whilst watching the fight. Coming forwards but being unable to land more and cleaner shots than the opponent is not effective aggression especially in the cases of round 3 and 6 what I mentioned.
    Maybe in some of those rounds but certainly not 3 and 6. Again what you said is not true, breakdown each round as I have done and demonstrate that Lomachenko lost tthem and with reasoning... I'll wait.

    The last bit I've addressed partially but Ishouldd have made it clear in original post. A bodyshot can score more than headshot.. I took Lopez clearly painful bodyshots into account
     
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Active Member Full Member

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    Body shots are equal to headshots. You are trying to sweep aside your OP wherein you introduced a novel scoring component (difficulty of landing) which exposed you as a biased/ignorant scorer.

    You also are wrong about effective aggression. Coming forward and forcing the opponent into a defense-only style -- which is exactly what happened, as Loma was forced to keep his hands at home -- is the very definition of effective aggression. That's why it's a separate category from punches landed, which is how you erroneously want to define it. They are not the same thing.
     
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  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    The only dominant round went to Loma? The most dominant round of the fight was the 12th, are you sure watched the right fight?
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Member Full Member

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    Yes I said that but that it's not how I was scoring the fight. One clean sharp bodyshot is better than a clean jab (obviously there is a scale here) . And this error accounted for and after watching I still have Loma winning these rounds (3 or 6).

    It works both ways mate if you're giving marks for effective aggression I can equally give marks for Loma for defense and effective aggression as he's not only landing cleaner and more frequently but avoiding the bigger rangier punches .
     
  13. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I knew there would be an extraordinary amount of arse soreness in here. Several are on suicide watch. Loma lost because he lost his balls for the first six rounds of the fight. You can't run for six rounds, then not bank the second six, then claim you won.
     
  14. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean as in a Definite possibilty...
     
  15. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    You can’t win if you refuse to throw punches for the first 5 rounds:duh:BangHead::BangHead:
    Loma always starts slowly but last night he was asleep until the 6th round
    I will say he woke up for 45 seconds in round two but then went back to sleep for the next few rounds.
    Lopez did his job and did it impressive style last night.
    Respect