Why Mayweather beats Sergio Martinez

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  1. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Guys, I copywrote 'totally ****ing useless'

    So erm?
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    It's why Floyd has had success in the past, but no way I see him being a good enough pressure fighter to out-maneuver Sergio coming forward. He's not a swarmer or conventional infighter, so he's not going to go chest to chest with Sergio to diminish the angles. Hence BBall said he would prefer if Floyd advanced but still countered right in front of Sergio, which benefits Floyd more IMO.
     
  3. ROACH

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    Review the tape and watch how much Ortiz was making Mayweather miss. Don't get me wrong, Mayweather landed some eye catching right hands, but Ortiz isn't exactly the most reactive fighter, and he managed to make Floyd miss much more than usual, especially as the fight went on. Perhaps, Floyd found it hard to get up for that fight, but it could also be a sign of decline.

    Sergio is an anticipating counterpuncher with a lot of experience and foot speed.

    If Floyd doesn't open up first, he'll give Sergio too much time to operate and he'll break down Floyd with lefts to the body, and to the face.

    If Sergio is just completely weight drained and a shell of himself, Floyd has a chance, but if the Sergio showed up that fought Chavez, I think he KOs Floyd.

    Floyd is not going to take this fight. He could make a lot of money, more than he would with anyone else aside from Pacquaio and maybe Canelo, but he's also more dangerous that Pacquaio and Canelo.

    I will say that Canelo does pose some problems and as he gains more experience and Floyd gets older, the fight outcome shifts in his favor.

    Right now, it's close to 50/50 as it is.

    But against Sergio, again, I think Floyd gets knocked out.

    I believe he'll fight Berto after he beats K-9.
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  5. Leon

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    While I don't bother with many of Jack's posts, he has a point here. Floyd's boxing skillz has stood the test of time against HOFers along with an ATG or two.

    Sexy Sergio on the other hand has had performances that aren't too clean against lesser opposition.

    Sexy Sergio's size plus his athleticism and some aspects of his style is what makes this an interesting fight.

    I wouldn't be confident about this being a competitive fight if Serg was Floyd's size.
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    You can beat Sergio if you box him.
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How much does size matter when it can't be enforced? Martinez couldn't impose his size on Mayweather, which is why the weight difference doesn't bother me in this fight.
     
  8. Beezy

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    Great post guys!! Don't really agree with Bballchump on this one.. but tis still nice to see people actually like and analyze boxing instead of talking ******ed trash like 90% of ESB.......

    BTW.. I think FLoyd is better off potshotting.. leading against a slick counter puncher is not smart when you are the smaller man and facing a southpaw?... no way.. MArtinez would counter him with jabs and uppercuts... much like JMM always does to Manny.... Floyd is better off pottshotting and circling constantly.. movement woul dhelp.. and counter when Martinez decides to do a wreckless flurry......... at 154.. I think Mayweather is young enough and fast enough to beat the older and maybe weight drained Martinez... as long as he doesn't get hit with anything big and tries to outclass Martinez (maybe even a TKO if he drains Martinez out).. at 160, I think Martinez honestly knocks FLoyd out.. real talk....
     
  9. Beezy

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    Yeah fam.. but Martinez ain't Floyd's size.. I think at 154 Floyd wins...... but he has to use his skills and ring IQ.. if they were the same size it wouldn't really be argument at all who wins.... but if Floyd tries to do to Martinez what he did to Cotto.. he will be in a really tough fight
     
  10. Leon

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    Haven't seen no swarmeresque qualities from Sergio yet. He's more like a somewhat slick southpaw boxer-puncher
     
  11. randomwalk

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    Let's be real. Martinez is too physical and strong for Mayweather. He beat up Chavez Jr. bad. The fight won't get made.
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    how many times have I heard this?
     
  13. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good thread Bball.

    Based on latest developments, anyone else see Floyd vs Berto early next year with Canelo late year? Seems to be the path at the moment as far as Money's return and plans.
     
  14. randomwalk

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    I don't know why, but I keep thinking Floyd is going to fight Devon Alexander next.
     
  15. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wouldn't be totally surprised but that fight doesn't really lead to anything.

    Berto would mean another belt leading to the unification super fight with Canelo after.

    Berto was just handed an HBO date after a failed drug test and unimpressive performance before that. Seems odd under the new regime.