Why might Fury want a Chisora trilogy?

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  1. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    1. Big money fight in Britain

    2. Activity (Fury has only had 2 fights and completed 15 rounds since February 2020)

    3. Fury's 2nd heavyweight trilogy (matching Ali, Holyfield) and 3rd consecutive defence, against a former world title challenger

    4. Very low risk fight with nothing relevant for Usyk/AJ to study

    5. Postpone the undisputed megafight, age Usyk out (if he wins) a few months and reduce the relevancy of the Ukraine-Russia conflict

    6. Symbolically get one over on Usyk/AJ and build the undisputed megafight further by playing with a fighter who went 12 hard rounds with Usyk, Parker x2 and Pulev since October 2020
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because he is actively trying to lose fans. He has too many fans and he is trying to cull some.
     
  3. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    A combination of reasons 1 and 4. Lots of money and low risk make for an enticing opportunity. In fact, those are the reasons for many championship matchups.
     
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  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really not a lot of old "names" to take out while waiting for Usyk-Joshua. Doesn't want to be too rusty for that but doesn't want to get smoked by a young gun. Joshua took out all the old names.
     
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  5. ShortRound

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    There's definitely an element of risk-reward. Take Joyce for example. I believe that 9/10 times Fury beats him, probably by wide UD. But 1/10 times Joyce may spring the upset on sheer relentlessness, possibly via an injury-related stoppage. And even if Fury beat Joyce relatively easily he'd pick up some wear and tear. Chisora's chances by contrast are closer to 1/100, he won't land anything that Fury doesn't allow him to and the fight isn't much or any less lucrative, so it makes a lot more sense as a tick over before the undisputed megafight.
     
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  6. bobbobbington

    bobbobbington New Member Full Member

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    I agree with a lot of that but I am not sure how much interest/money this fight generates. They are obviously friends (any fake beef will be transparent) and there no real uncertainty about the outcome. I don't see how anyone can spin it that Chisora is live in the fight. Oddly, if Chisora was hated there be a market to see him bashed up but I don't really think anyone what's to see that. It's a hard sell.

    I don't really see the advantage to Fury of delaying the Usyk fight (assuming he beats AJ). There is only a 2 year age difference and given the lack of pints. recreational drugs, massive weight fluctuations he is probably the younger in 'athletic terms'. The fight would be a fitting final act for men's careers.

    I also don't really think he would be saving Chisora from a beating elsewhere. If Fury sort of carries Chisora the distance but damages him in each round the long-term damage is probably greater than being sparked early by the likes of Wilder - which is how I would see that fight ending.

    Given the AJ/Usyk fight is only 11 days away it makes sense to wait, see what happens and try to make the undisputed fight as soon as possible. This might sound cynical but if Usyk wins financially it makes sense to have the fight before the public lose interest in the Ukraine-Russian war (which has clearly made Ukrainian sportspeople more marketable). As we all know complex routes to fights, letting them season etc, all this bollocks normally means the fight never happens- particularly as neither is particularly young. Any delay is a risk.
     
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  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I think because Fury trains all the time to stay out of trouble he needs something to be training for and he would deem Chisora as a easy stay busy fight that will last some rounds. I think he is still toying with the idea of fighting the Usyk AJ 2 winner and by staying active he is giving himself a better chance.
     
  8. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nothing is going to elevate fury's two previous wins over Chisora, barring a miraculous win resulting in Chisora becoming a champ. How on Earth can you figure it would be a HW title trilogy? neither was a champ when they fought previously. Chisora isn't ranked, so only bribery (to get him ranked) or a non title fight can happen.
     
  9. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I seriously can not understand anyone buying ticket to this if it were to happen.
     
  10. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Chisora is his buddy and Fury likes for his buddy go get some coin.
     
  11. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then he should hire him for something, not put on a staged, meaningless 3rd fight.
     
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  12. ShortRound

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    The fight isn't hugely lucrative but I suspect that Chisora's name-value makes it very lucrative in Britain relative to the risk. It would certainly sell a lot better than Fury-Helenius or Fury-Kabayel for example. Many casuals won't remember the nature of the 2nd fight, they'll be expecting Chisora to bring war as he did relatively recently against Usyk, Parker and Pulev. It could be marketed as Chisora's swan song; "one last chance for the underdog". The career highest payday would presumably accelerate Chisora's retirement and we'd likely see a compassionate stoppage halfway through the bout after Fury had carried him for a few rounds, not a sustained beating.

    There's another side to the Ukrainian conflict which is that the more it's relevant the more Usyk is likely to get more favourable or less unfavourable treatment from the officials. But the idea that the megafight could be made early next year is probably incorrect, it will be a stadium fight in summer 2023 imo. Fury wants ring time before that, especially seeing as he hasn't been all that active since Wilder 2. It's speculation whether Fury wants to age Usyk out, I'm not confident he does but it's a plausible theory given that Usyk's 17 months older, his number of amateur bouts, smaller stature and pure mover style.
     
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  13. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hire him for what? To be the poster boy for the Furiosity drink?
     
  14. SergioJ91

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    Wants to stay active before his fight with Usyk.
     
  15. bobbobbington

    bobbobbington New Member Full Member

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    Some very good points. You could be right about timing but would it not probably go to the Middle East again, in which Winter actually a bit better? (you can actually go outdoors then?) Just speculating