Why Modern Boxing Has Lost Depth....

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Flea Man, Feb 4, 2010.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Having shot hands totally redefined Holman's style, and he didn't figh anything like as often as Greb.
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Floyd is one fighter who really wouldn't prosper IMO.

    Also, a lit of posters are assumin the bigger Heavies would still be dominant: i don't think that's the case. Someone like Adamek might very well be Champ. Vitalis fighting regularly now but would he still be fighting if he'd already had 100+fights?

    How many times would Wlad have been starched fighting 12 times a year (at least?)

    I also don't think fights would need to be marketed over a number of months as the big fighters would be more well known. It's 'boxings current fragmented state that has caused confusion.

    8 champs are much easier to remember, and I think a lot of fans would 'come back' so to speak.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Boxing, for a variety of reasons has become a marginal sport..only surfacing when a heavyweight like Mike Tyson is the star, or when a wonder=boy like Sugar Ray Leonard or De la Hoya is making news...but really, only Tyson sparked real interest in the sport, and part of that was due to his noteriety and providing morbid sensationalism like ear biting, although that was in his period of decline. It's nothing like the days when Ali was champion..but boxing's decline can be based on incremental changes that slowly sapped the sport of it's tradition..like the reduction of championship bouts to 12 from 15, and the overproliferation of titlists and weight classes....and these are still just some of the reasons.
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Holman Williams was also willing to fight anyone.
     
  5. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think there is a social/psychological dimension here as well.
    When you are brought up in poverty and with a lack of opportunities and boxing gives you a way to earn (albeit still not enought to become rich or complacent in the days of yesteryear.) then you are not going to give a **** about protecting your 'o' or having two fights a year to chill out,play basketball,go to the casino and watch rap dvds on your 50 inch plasma.
    When you box because you need to eat,injuries are of much less concern also.
    Boxers of today who have been brought up in relative comfort will know or understand nothing of the trials of hobos like dempsey,those during the great depression,rampant racism and such like.
    A guy like money may or other current luminaries probably have no idea or concept of fighting twenty times in a year for peanuts or any associated hardships of boxing back in the day.
    That doesnt mean that 'may' isnt more talented than 99% of all the boxers of yesteryear,but we have to put that talent in perspective somewhat,and i really seriously doubt todays boys in general could fight a schedhule like those of the earlier guys....
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both K brothers have had well over 100 fights, probably over 200
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Pro fights, with the gloves stipulated atthe beginning of the thread?

    As to your previous point, I think Dempseys schedule does diminish his standing somewhat.
     
  8. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    thanks for your contribution :good

    your point on social context is a f'n good one too.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    Boxing is now a global sport. I think the participation rate is OK. What hurts is the lack of media coverage and alphabet politics which prevent the type of fights on air to see depth. There are too many weight divisions too. Reduce the weight divisions from 17 to 11, and all of a sudden the 3rd or 4th rated guy in each division from light heavyweight down would be better than they are now.
     
  10. mochabuzz

    mochabuzz Active Member Full Member

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    modern boxing has lost popularity and depth because u have to pay friggin' 50.00 to watch a championship fight!!!!! nobody knows who all of these alphabet champs are. :bart
     
  11. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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  12. junior-soprano

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    i totally agree with you. but this is not only the problem with boxing but with more "tough" sports. most athletes of today lack the mental toughness compared to old timers. because (at least in the western world) life in general is to "easy". almost al people have acces to health support and good education and a job etc etc and also the financial reward for sportsman has grown way out of proportion. i accept the fact that athletes are gifted people who work/train hard (but so do we normal people also) and that there careers last a few years so a bigger reward then normal people get for there work is in place. but athletes making 10s of millions of dollars/euro's a year that ain't normal
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this, problem is the organizations that can make $ changes are all about the $$$$ and more titles
     
  14. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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