Why MORALES ranks higher than BARRERA

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  1. George W Hedge

    George W Hedge Member Full Member

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    1stly...
    The head to head score is a myth... I have it 2-0-1 to morales.
    I have morales taking a 7-5 rds win in their 1st epic, I admit, a lot of rds were close but erik was the busier fighter while mab was content to attack in short bursts.... for the record, the rds I gave to each boxer are....
    Morales... 4,5,6,7,9,10 & 11.......... mab 1,2,3,8 & 12.

    2nd fight... morales wins 8-3-1
    morales rds... 1,2,4,5,7,8,10 & 11........ mab 6,9 & 12.... rd3 even.

    3rd fight.... 6-6 in rds
    morales... 2,4,7,8,11 & 12........ mab 1,3,5,6,9 & 10.

    The 1st & 3rd fights were super close & they recieved 1 each, that evens itself out but the 2nd fight was a disgusting robbery as erik outboxed him throughout, anybody who says different should stop watching boxing NOW.

    Also.... entertainment aside (erik wins this hands down) I dont believe mab has ever beaten anyone that morales wouldnt beat were as erik has beat guys that would give mab hell or beat him (jones, pacquiao, chavez & to a lesser extent Hernandez.)

    So, my view is that Morales edges the head to head & has also had the better career victories... Id also give the edge to erik in heart, boxing skills, chin & warriors spirit.

    Cheers.
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  2. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You just like Morales better and have tailored an argument around your preference.
     
  3. Stewbear

    Stewbear Active Member Full Member

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    I also think Morales won two out of the three fights, though they all proved they are neck and neck in accomplishments too.
    Currently I guess would place Morales just above Barrera, though this could change if Barrera beat Pacman.
     
  4. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Morales deserved the win in the 3rd fight, hands down. It was nothing even that close, IMHO, he should have been ahead by 2 to 4 points. More active, more punches (despite the bull**** Compubox made up, they didn't just count the punches that landed wrong, they added Barrera a lot of non-existing punches too), and hitting Barrera more cleanly and harder.
     
  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I have Barrera 2-1. He won the first fight no question. And the 3rd fight as well.

    Barrera owns Morales in the trilogy.
     
  6. LeedsLad

    LeedsLad Active Member Full Member

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    I thought Barrera won the first, Morales won the second and Barrera certainly won the third.
     
  7. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Barrera won the 1st? You are totally crazy. Morales was a LOT more active, MUCH-MUCH better clean punching, better defense, better ring generalship, in almost all rounds of the fight.
     
  8. LeedsLad

    LeedsLad Active Member Full Member

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    Barrera edged the first, Morales edged the second and Barrera won the third fairly clearly.

    I still like Morales more, and rank him higher than Barrera regardless. Barrerea did the smarter thing and became more of a boxer in latter years of his career, however i prefer Morales for sticking to the entertaining, toe to toe style he always had.

    Junior Jones beat Barrera twice, and just 18 months later Morales destroyed Jones. The other opponents they had in common they both beat equally convincingly. Outside of there fights with each other, Barrera's big win is Hamed, whereas Morales's big win is Pacquiao. IMO Morales win over Pac was a greater achievement, and therefore he deserves the higher rank.
     
  9. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    They were both great champions and true warriors who have repeatedly proved their worth. I have difficulty separting the two in terms of ranking. However, I find Morales' uncompromising and aggressive style is more pleasing to the eye.
     
  10. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Barrera could not edge out the first by staying passive 80% of time and taking a thorough beating, showing just how lower in class he is as a boxer than Morales. Waking up for 20 seconds at the end of the round and landing several punches doesn't win you a round, even more so the fight.
     
  11. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First time I saw the trilogy I scored it 0-0-3.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Same here! I've intended to go back and rewatch and rescore them but never have.
     
  13. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did you ? Just when I thought I would read some hated post in response of mine, I was ready for this :yep

    I never rewatched them either... I had to much fights to watch afterward.
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    No, you are totally crazy. I think opinion is so far from the truth that your having a laugh.

    Morales better defense in the first fight?. You really are the joker of the pack on this thread.
     
  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Keep a mental count of punches one and the other land during the round, rather than watch just the final spurt of Barrera trying to steal the round. Morales is using latteral movement, body movement, parrying and blocking most of the punches during the round and only gets hit with several punches in the end usually, but only after he landed several tens more punches on his own during the previous 2.5 minutes.