Why Moses will never come back

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by serioussam, Aug 30, 2026 at 1:48 PM.


  1. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    is he hurt for real? he's a kid, an athlete and sturdily constructed. he can bounce off **** for years and with his natural ability to not take impact fully in nearly all cases, i have no trouble believing he swallows this beating up and eats it like a good steak. the hard earned lessons might benefit him more than the beating hurt him, both physically and mentally
     
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  2. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Exactly. You need to be able to withstand a massive amount of punishment to get to the stage where Itauma becomes beatable. Dubois wouldn't survive it, maybe even Wardley wouldn't. Fury would probably get spanked.
     
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  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I don’t think you are considering the psychological damage this fight can cause. The guy looked like David Price in there and was stretchered out of the ring.
     
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  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I don't like the kid and was happy to see him lose but people still make too much of a deal out of a loss.
    Losing fights is a part of the sport and nothing to be ashamed of. All this staying undefeated nonsense was created by Mayweather.
     
  5. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

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    Lol. It s not that simple. Itauma can't just !pick up extra rounds"—he would literally have to rebuild his entire muscle memory and fight identity. Up until now, his whole game has been built on maximum explosiveness, heavy-handed sharp combinations, and high-volume bursts to get early knockouts. You can't just tell a fighter with that engine to suddenly become a patient, energy-conserving 12-round point-scorer. That requires dismantling routines he’s perfected for years: changing his breath control, taking power off his shots, altering his footwork, and unlearning the urge to commit 100% to every exchange. Overhauling a prospects entire tactical DNA after a brutal stoppage while trying to protect their confidence isn't just about "getting active" active against better journeymen or gatekeeper - it's one of the hardest rebuilds in boxing
     
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  6. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They should keep oxygen tanks in his corner. That fight was crap the Croat was a heavybag for the entire fight before Moses got ko'd by exhaustion. If these are the guys coming in after Usyk's reign the division is in a sad state.
     
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  7. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To earn $500M more, lol.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wlad possessed all the talent in the world and great physical gifts but after he lost to Puritty he fought a savage puncher in Sanders and got smoked in 2 rounds

    Then he lost to Brewster

    Sure he came back from all those setbacks and adversity to have an incredible career and reign for a decade but he ran into a murderous puncher in Sanders and suffered by far the most resounding defeat of his career

    He gets crucified for those 3 losses even though 2 of them were fights he was dominating before running out of gas and the one vs Brewster possibly being due to foul play.

    Moses could come back to dominate the division for a decade but he could also run into a savage puncher like Wlad did before doing so or even during his reign

    Sure most HWs are not going to be able to withstand the punishment the freakishly tough Hrgovic did against him but, likewise, Moses is going to encounter harder or much harder punchers than Hrgovic during his journey, quicker punchers than Hrgovic, and world class and elite HWs who are not the perfect stylistic match up for him to make him look good like Hrgovic was so we can't just act like it's a formality that he's going to be the dominant HW of a generation.

    His future is bright but the HW division is a perilous minefield and when you're facing elite punchers and world class ones who are quick for the size or quick enough to land with their bombs or even just one bomb at the right time it can and very often does result in a KO or TKO loss and can change or even ruin a career in the blink off an eye
     
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  9. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    This thread is why boxing is dying and no fighter takes risks
     
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  10. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm genuinely not sure what fight you were watching as that is not what I saw. Isn't it interesting how different people view things in different ways? Have a wonderful day man, peace and love always, Px
     
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  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Go watch some of the kids ameture bouts
    He has clearly got the ability to box differently
     
  12. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He will be back.. No doubt about it, My bigger concern would be if they went straight to a rematch.
    I said before the fight on another page this is Haye V Thompson again... When Hrgovic showed up on the scales look really solid and dialed in I thought he'd win and he did in a similar manner just stay in the fight wait for the young gun to gas.
    If they go for the rematch they make the Price mistake - and you get you chin checked again - Moses needs rounds. Haye deliberately went 12 when he could have bounced Abdoul around the ring.. Moses will need a sterner test than that but he also need some patience he could have sat on the jab and backhand instead he was throwing every punch as KO shot.
    He needs some time off, then some decent match making.
     
  13. Boxed Ears

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  14. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Thank you. Someone who doesn't try to adorn Hrgovic's performance as if it was something it wasn't.
     
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  15. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    He will be back.....as a Tommy Morrison or Frank Bruno type fighter. He's too arrogant to change. His whole method of fighting is to give everything 100% until the opponent falls. That only works for certain fighters like Isaac Cruz, and he only gets away with because of the smaller muscle size and top tier conditioning, and even then you can see his output drop dramatically in the later part of a fight.

    Force Moses to be more cautious and throw less punches and he is no longer Moses Itauma. That also allows his opponents to do their gameplan. If he fought that way against Hrgovic he would have been pieced up when Hrgovic presses forward because of Moses' lower output.

    But he won't change. He thinks bench pressing 315lbs is something to be proud of in boxing. He thinks you don't need a chin. He doesn't like to spar 12 rounds. He even thought if Wardley had won against Dubois, Wardley would have stepped down so HE could fight for that title. The delusion and arrogance!

    Sorry, Moses Itauma is going to get stopped again. I see it clearly with Kabayel, who will take whatever punch he has just like Hergovic did. But Kabayel will also punish the body, force inside fighting, and catch a tiring Itauma with a vicious uppercut at around the 5th round.

    This is what happens when you push hype jobs from the very beginning like what the British Media did to this kid.
     
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