Why Mosley never became a PPV attraction

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  1. boxingbull

    boxingbull Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do you guys think Mosley never became a PPV attraction in the same category as say a DLH or Pacquiao and even Cotto. Mosley had a crowdpleasing style and knocked guys out especially at 135 he had champ personality like Leonard and even had the Sugar alias He moving up 2 weight divisions to fight De La Hoya and constantly fought guys nobody would not fight (Wright Forrest)

    Possible reasons for this:

    Was not having a fanbase outside of America the reason? (ex Pacquiao, Trinidad)
    Did he not trash talk enough or was controversial? (ex Mayweather, Tyson)
    Lack of a high profile promoter? (ex Top Rank with DLH, Don King with Trinidad)

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Relentless

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    because he made some wrong choices

    after a huge win over hoya he fought vernon ****in forrest, at lightmiddleweight he fought winky twice.

    plus after the forrest loss he went through a few bad fights where he looked crap.


    oh and also he was being promoted by gary ****en shaw.
     
  3. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather Jr. - "Money" persona = Shane Mosley
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shane was too nice, fought everyone and wasn't mexican.

    Too nice-very respectful guy. Didn't make bad choices outside the ring never had trouble with the law. Never played the role of hill or bad guy.

    Fought everyone-no one could ever say shane ducked anyone. Because he fought everyone there was never any build up for his fights. Was always easy to deal with when it came to making fights.

    Not mexican-coming from socal not being mexican hurt his numbers. If he was from chicago, new york or detroit he would have be a much bigger ppv star
     
  5. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    He wasn't slick or black enough.
     
  6. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is a weird dynamic, that I totally agree with. Malinaggi gets alot of love from NY, doubt anyone would even know who the magic man was if he was from So Cal. Who's this Tim Bradley I hear about now and then?
     
  7. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Also his early pre-title career stalled considerably because of the wrong choices.
     
  8. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Balco incident
     
  9. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is what happens when a fighter does what the message board people want and not what the promoters want. When you fight ANYBODY you end up fighting Vernon Forrest, losing, and killing all of the momentum and media interest you built in beating a top PPV star like De La Hoya.

    However, if he didn't do it, and fought, say, Arturo Gatti after that, the messages boards would be up in arms over it...but Mosley would have won, looked great doing so, and have shown an ability to attract a PPV crowd.

    This is why people like Bob Arum continue to stay in business while people like us would make horrible promoters. Sure, WE all hate him, but you have to admit, without him, 80% of the boxers who carried the spot over the past decade would NOT exist. They exist because he knows how to match them for maximum exposure, publicity, and profit.

    If everybody fought the way we wanted them to fight, you'd see P4P stars with Glen Johnson-like records, a bunch of formerly promising 23 year old boxers ruined Fernando Vargas-style by wars with seasoned vets, and nobody would draw flies outside of the hardcore boxing community.

    Case and point: Shane Mosley.
     
  10. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    Shane was a great fighter, but his personality didn't draw anybody to him. It sucks, but that's the way it works. You got to sell yourself outside the ring as well as inside of it. Look at Broner. Dude already has people taking notice because of the whole hair grooming thing he likes to do.
     
  11. di tullio

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    I was actually talking to my parents about boxing, they used to watch it a lot when I was growing up in the 90's and early 2000's and they mentioned Shane Mosley as I guy they liked to watch. Incidentally, they also mentioned James Toney, Jones Jr., and Holyfield. Maybe guys on roids are funner to watch.
     
  12. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    I wondered this too, same with Hopkins really, both big names but can't sell ****
     
  13. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Mosley had an exciting style compared to Hopkins though so should have done better.
     
  14. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sure he won't go hungry at the end of the day.I think the close decision v the PPV darling and the Balco incident always meant people had misgivings.I freely admit that I didn't give him the credit he deserves till late in the day.
    I'm sorry Shane,I was wrong about you.
     
  15. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins wasnt as popular because in his younger days he was too outspoken and networks were scared to put him on. Hopkins would fight on Fox sports back in the mid to late 1990's pre tito, and he would go on for 10 mins after the fight about all the things wrong with boxing, and how boxing was chewing up and using these kids.