Why no more 180-199lb boxers with extraordinary punching power?

I think an important element to that imperfect study was that it was just measuring overall force. But i don’t think it accounted for accute impacts you could get from smaller gloves or no gloves.

There’s no question that MMA fighters go down from less power. Maybe there are other elements at play as well, such as positioning and overall body mechanics.

 

Because they are hitting 240 pound guys that can fight ..

 

Perhaps, but you can only hang so much on that.

I am going to assume that a person who was a murderous puncher with 4 oz horse hair gloves, would still have been a murderous puncher with 16 oz sparring gloves.

The big gloves are nothing new at the end of the day.

People have sparred with 16 oz gloves throughout the 20th century, and there have been states that mandated 8oz gloves since Sullivan's day.

 

Haye, Thompson, and Sellers were all dynamite punchers.

 

Floyd has convinced a lot of fighters to use the Philly Shell. Problem is it usually backfires on them.

 

At the risk of getting deeper maybe Mac is talking about the lack of success of small/er men in the big division.

Mac!!!!!

 

Maybe those are just the ones you think of? Also, the trend of weighing between 180-199 lbs at heavyweight pretty much disappeared after Marciano save for Patterson. Most fighters were in the 200s by the mid 60s. Generally.

The cruiserweight division came about in the 80s right? We haven't really ever seen a strong cruiserweight division imo until relatively recently with the rise of Usyk, Gassiev, Dorticos, Briedes, Kudryashov, Lebedev and the many more lower contenders who probably won't pick up a title. However from a purely power perspective these guys are definitely really hard hitting and near the level of Marciano and Dempsey. Haven't seen enough of them against each other yet.

 

By the way, Gassiev fights Dorticos in a few hours. It should be free on YouTube.

If you wanna see a modern cruiser sized mule kick puncher, tune in! I think this guy is better than Usyk, and will KO Dorticos, and will beat Usyk next. Dorticos is a really good puncher too, but a level below Murat I reckon.

What is all our classic opinions worth if we can’t use it to make modern predictions!?

 

LHW Adonis Stevenson and Artur Beterbiev would weigh in this range when
they enter the ring and i am sure they hit as hard as anybody in this weight
range. Its just today there is no need to prove your self at HW they are just
too big and there are decent paydays to be made at LHW.

 

Does anyone here see any modern fighter in Langfords weight category that could hit with as much or greater pile driving force?

The only one I see that comes close is Golovkin, and he seems to be receiving his due praise as an all time legendary power puncher by the boxing world. He seems to be engulfed in the exact same type of legendary nomenclature used for the elite punchers of the past. He seems to be getting the Thor and Odin treatment.

So who are the Langford/Golovkin esque punchers in the modern era who are not getting the Thor and Odin treatment? Trying to test the merit of this thread.

 

You can see the level of power he posses against Jeanette, when he launches a slow moving bomb that violently stuns Jeanette and makes his head whip. You don't see that level of power from Kovalev and Stevenson. Both very good punchers, but a class below.