Why no Super Heavy Division?

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  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are there enough good over 220 lbs heavyweights to create a Superheavy division?
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    No there aren't. There's not going to be enough talent to go around and size is self-limiting for the most part anyway. It will never work in the pros.
     
  3. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also Chris Byrd at 6' 210lbs reigned recently and proved that skill can beat size.
     
  4. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I'd rather have a crappy Heavyweight division than a very crappy Heavyweight division & a supremely crappy SuperHeavyweight division.
     
  5. prone2gr8tness

    prone2gr8tness Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  6. thegoldenera

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    i agree, but i would say over 230 pounds.
     
  7. Lobotomy

    Lobotomy Guest

    The "Dreadnought Division" was a non starter in Carnera's day, and again when Lew Eskin tried to revive it as a "Super Heavyweight Division" for Buster Mathis-Humphrey Dumpty McBride.
     
  8. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    please please don't give the modern heavyweight another excuse to be a fatass.
     
  9. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    We dont need it, its been tried, nobody cares.

    Remember the Super Cruiserweight division? 191-210 Lbs. before Cruiser was moved up to 200Lbs. Nobody cared about that either.
     
  10. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    I'd rather see a heavyweight focused spinoff of Celebrity Fit Club with Cris Arreola and Odlanier Solis leading two teams of fatties.
     
  11. tony mush

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  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    NO !


    We have waaaaaaaay too many divisions as it is.



    We only need about ten weight divisions.

    For the modern era of previous-day weigh-ins, it could be:


    HeavyWeight: over 190

    Light HW: under 190

    Middle Weight: under 170

    WelterWeight: under 155

    LightWeight: under 143

    FeatherWeight: under 133

    BantamWeight: under 125

    FlyWeight: under 118

    Straw-weight: under 112

    Midget weight under: 107
     
  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why no Super Heavy Division? Because if that was where money is to be made, every Heavyweight who was worth anything would move up to Super Heavy, thus the Heavyweights would be the new Cruiserweights, and the Cruiserweights, well they would be the new Eric Crumble's...
     
  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1913-04-27 The Daily Picayune (New Orleans, LA) (page S8)
    Mack's Melange
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    McFARLAND AND RITCHIE.
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    The men interested are working up a bout between Willie Ritchie, the present lightweight champion, and Packey McFarland, the Chicago welterweight, and are discussing the weight question. Ritchie made 133 pounds for Ad Wolgast in the match in which he won the title, through the foul tactics of the latter, and he has not taken on any considerable averdupois. McFarland weighs in the neighborhood of 140 pounds. A well-known manager of boxers, who never had any great reputation as a trainer, claims that he could take McFarland and in eight weeks reduce his weight so that he could make 133 pounds at 8 o'clock, or 135 pounds ringside, if the fight was to be held at night, and that Packey would not lose any strength under the operation. It would seem that any good trainer could do as well. The modern fighter finds that things come so easy to him that he does not care much for rigorous training. Few of them have ever been well trained for a bout. Some of the work that is done in gymnasium nowadays may be better for the purpose than that done by the old ring fighters. But when it comes to taking off weight and getting a man in good shape for a grueling bout, none of the present-day fighters or trainers have anything on those of a generation or two back. Arthur Chambers once took on a fight to save a big forfeit for the man who always backed him in his battles. To make the required weight Chambers had to take off forty pounds, which he did and beat his man after a hard fight. Chambers could probably give tips on training and conditioning to any man in the business to-day, and there are few in it who even pretend to be able to train or condition a man. Modern boxers do not take the business as seriously as did their predecessors. They never risk any of their own money. There are no backers of fighters any more, and the only money involved is that of the public who go to see the bouts. Hence thorough training is practically a lost art.
    MACK​
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