Why no talk of Steve Collins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Darthmage, Jul 16, 2007.


  1. Darthmage

    Darthmage SILENCE! I KEEL J00! Full Member

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    We always hear people saying that RJJ never fought DM and was ducking him. Why doesn't anyone talk about Steve Collins? He was undefeated in his last 15 fights, defeated Nigel Benn and Chris Eubanks twice each.

    How come no one ever writes about him?
     
  2. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    first off, this would belong in the history section.

    and secondly.........this has to be a joke. collins was rough and tough, but three classes below jones in terms of talent!!!

    did i say three?? no, make that a different planet.

    no one could imagine that collins would have been even remotely competative.
     
  3. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Collins was a tough *******, but he would of taken a serious beating. And I mean serious.
     
  4. Darthmage

    Darthmage SILENCE! I KEEL J00! Full Member

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    I am just saying that it looks like everyone has forgotten him. Were his wins a fluke or something?? His resume looks great on paper and I must admit I don't know much about the man. I wasn't asking how he would do in a fight vs RJJ.
     
  5. joe33

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    He was rock hard mate,and i wonder what he would have done if giving the chance with the top guys,guess we will never know.
     
  6. tryggve

    tryggve New Member Full Member

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    Collins is underrated had a great career 3 losses in middleweight title fightd never lost after goin up to super middle 2 close wins over Eubank and 2 tko over Benn even tho he wasnt the same after McClellan. No shame in losing to McCallum Kalambay or Johnson middle and supermiddle was so good back in the early 90s loads of talent there.
     
  7. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, truthfully, he fought both Benn and Eubank when they were past their best but even so, a wins a win.He was quite limited as a fighter.

    I'd love to of seen him get a fight with Jones but it just never happened. I'd be rooting for him myself, being an Irishman, but Jones would of given him a hiding.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Collins imo was grossly overrated.He wouldnt have stood a chance against Jones and by the time he got to Benn and Eubank they were old men.
     
  9. Mon43

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    Would Calzaghe have recieved more credit for beating Collins than Eubank?

    JC was supposed to fight Collins, but he pulled out, citing lack of motivation.
     
  10. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe. If he had of fought and beat Collins, the haters would say he never fought Eubank:nut But had he of fought and beat Collins for the title, then I would f thought he'd of fought Eubank in his first defence anyway. We'll never know though. It certainly would of been a good scalp for JC to of had on his resume.
     
  11. Mon43

    Mon43 Member Full Member

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    True, Collins should take more flack for blatantly ducking Calzaghe as well.
     
  12. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe so, but it was ten years ago and Collins is no HoF. Fighters like him can get away with that. Calzaghe on the other hand, should he not fight Kessler would be brutalised. It's tough at the top as they say.
     
  13. deram

    deram Active Member Full Member

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    Collins was white... Eubanks and Benn are black. Many people still think boxing skills have to do with skin colour :roll:
     
  14. Tim

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    the only ones who said jones ducked collins were collins himself and his promoter frank warren. fact of the matter is, collins wanted 3 million to fight jones, and HBO didn't think he was worth that kind of money. that's why the fight never took place.