Why NOT 50/50? Floyd vs Pac

Rudolph · May 14, 2012

I got a little tired of reading endless arguments on the topic of Floyd and Pac's purse split so instead of asking my question in all those threads I've decided to make a separate one.

Tell me, WHY NOT 50/50?
Floyd and Pac are pretty even in terms of their PPV history, they seem to attract equal viewing numbers whenever they fight, they are the two most talked about boxers of the world with neither getting a distinct lead in popularity.

So -- WHY NOT 50/50? I'm really curious to know.

catnthehat · May 14, 2012

Here I'll show you.

|A|C|S| · May 14, 2012

Lol

prelude · May 14, 2012

The fight won't happen...even if it's 0/100 for Floyd. Health come first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=y31Xq5tzbLM

catnthehat · May 14, 2012

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Totaling up all of their numbers for all PPV does not show the truth.

The numbers are as follows: Mayweather De La Hoya 2,400,000 Mayweather-Hatton920,000 Mayweather Marquez 1,005,000 Mayweather Mosley 1,500,000 Mayweather Ortiz 1,200,000 Mayweather Cotto 1,500,000 for a total of 8,525,000 PPV buys...The average is 1,705,000;

With Pacquiao you have: Pacquiao De La Hoya 1,250,000 Pacquiao Hatton 850,000 Pacquiao Cotto 1,250,000 Pacquiao Clottey 700,000 Pacquiao Margarito 1,150,000 Pacquiao Mosley 1,200,000, Pacquiao Marquez 3 1,450,000 for a total of 7,850,000 PPV buys. The average is about 1,113,000. Now let's look at the common opponents. the numbers for all common opponents are listed above and the common opponents amongst them are De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Cotto, and Mosley. Mayweather has 7,325,000 PPV buys among common opponents and averages 1,465,000. Pacquiao has 6,100,000 buys among common opponents nad averages 1,220,000. You have one guy averaging 1,705,000 and another guy averaging 1,113,000, whic is a difference of 592,000 PPV buys or more than half of Pacquiao's average. If you go off the common opponents, Floyd averages 245,000 more buys which is approx. 17% higher than Pacquiao.

If you look at revenue then Floyd also holds a very big edge with this as well. I don't have the Pacquiao revenue numbers, but the top 4 highest net revenue fights all include Floyd. You have De La Hoya Mayweather at approx $135,000,000, Cotto Mayweather at $94,000,000, Ortiz Mayweather at $78,400,000, and Mosley Mayweather at $78,000,000. The only numbers I have for Pacquiao's revenue is $70,100,000 for the Pacquiao De La Hoya fight. Some fans say, "well it's the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight that jacks up Floyd's numbers." Well that is fine but that is not relevant. The numbers are what they are and there is no way to change them.

Some will say "well Floyd fights once per year and that's why he does those high numbers." To those people, I'll point out that since the De La Hoya fight, Floyd fought Oscar and Hatton in a 7 month period, Marquez and Mosley in a 8 month period, and Ortiz and Cotto within an 8 month period. Mayweather and De La hoya also split $79,000,000 with 2,400,000 PPV buys, with Oscar making $52,800,000 and Floyd taking $26,200,000 to my understanding. So it's safe to assume that Mayweather and Pacquiao will split $105,000,000 at 3,000,000 PPV buys. Pacquiao has a career high payday of $25,000,000 to include profits off of PPV revenue (I am not including the Bradley fight as we just don't know here), while Floyd will end with about $50,000,000 for Cotto ($32,000,000 guarantee and $18,000,000 off PPV revenue).

So if they split $105,000,000, and Pacquiao took his career high of $40,000,000, he would end up with $15,000,000 more than anything he ever made. Floyd would end up with $15,000,000 more than anything he ever made and the deal is a fair one.

If you go with 50/50 then Floyd makes $2,500,000 more than he made for Cotto, while Manny would double his high payday of $25,000,000 and take home $52,500,000-not a good deal for both parties. How they pay that out from there is on the fighters.

If they did a 45/45-10 to the winner (which will never happen in boxing-see Pacquiao-Marquez or Williams-Lara as to why it won't) then Floyd takes a slight paycut if he loses at $47,500,000 and only makes about $57,000,000 if he wins ($7,000,000 above his highest total at $50,000,000. Manny on the other side, would be guarantee'd approx $20,000,000 more his highest payday if he lost, and $32,000,000 his highest payday if he won. I just don't see how this deal is fair...one guy stands to make a little bit more than his high payday when the PPV numbers, revenue made, and past net take home, has him dominating the Pacquiao. Note-I know my numbers are slightly off for the money and percentage splits but I hold no bias with those numbers.

Let's also not reach for anything with the PPV amount...De La Hoya Mayweather was raised $5 for the HD and $5 for the non HD. So we can assume that a Pacquiao Mayweather fight would have a PPV price tag of $70 for HD and $60 for non HD.
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This is why..the fight is projected to split $100,000,000 by the fighters..i'll just give *******s the BOTD and say $105,000,000.

Floyd's high is $50,000,000...Pac's is $25,000,000.

catnthehat · May 14, 2012

prelude said: ↑

The fight won't happen...even if it's 0/100 for Floyd. Health come first

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cool story....as long as Manny takes the test then we have 0 about health.:good:hi:

prelude · May 14, 2012

catnthehat said: ↑

This is why..the fight is projected to split $100,000,000 by the fighters..i'll just give *******s the BOTD and say $105,000,000.

Floyd's high is $50,000,000...Pac's is $25,000,000.
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No money can get this coward in the ring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=y31Xq5tzbLM

catnthehat · May 14, 2012

prelude said: ↑

No money can get this coward in the ring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=y31Xq5tzbLM
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Nope..that's how you interprete it...in the same interview he said he wasn't scared of Manny.

Can someone please put up a real post.atsch

Look at what you *******s have been reduced to posting...LMFAO:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:hi:

prelude · May 14, 2012

catnthehat said: ↑

cool story....as long as Manny takes the test then we have 0 about health.:good:hi:
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Floyd: My health is more important than moneys...I'm a rich coward!

catnthehat · May 14, 2012

So just take $40,000,000 and take the tests...then they can fight..LMFAO at how easy it is to toy around with *******s.

catnthehat · May 14, 2012

lol look how these *******s interprete what people say to make themselves feel better LMFAO..

prelude · May 14, 2012

catnthehat said: ↑

Nope..that's how you interprete it...in the same interview he said he wasn't scared of Manny.

Can someone please put up a real post.atsch

Look at what you *******s have been reduced to posting...LMFAO:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:hi:
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Floyd: I'm a rich coward. I'm not scared of Manny but i'm afraid for my health if I fight him. No money is worth my health...health come first.

prelude · May 14, 2012

catnthehat said: ↑

So just take $40,000,000 and take the tests...then they can fight..LMFAO at how easy it is to toy around with *******s.
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Pac can fight for free and it wouldn't happen. Health come first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=y31Xq5tzbLM

keith · May 14, 2012

The fight should be 50/50 period.

There is no mandate that suggests Floyd deserves more money. They are both on the top of the p4p rankings, they are both champs, they are both the biggest draws.

Asking for more than a split is asking not to fight.

Keith

Rudolph · May 14, 2012

Can anyone please replace Catnthehat on Floyd's side?
I'd like to see real reasons instead of endless "*******s this, *******s that" bull****.

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