Why not Usyk-Parker and Dubois-Chisora at Wembley?

I know but that's how it is, apart from the fact that in my opinion we will most likely have Dubois - Usyk 2. Not long ago their managers were negotiating for the rematch and in my opinion the date will be announced in a few days, we'll see.

 

yes , parker is currently more proven so i agree his shot comes first .

In a sportman world :

Dubois vs parker asap to sort out who faces the champ - like it was agreed until duboi's last minute pullout .

Usyk could simultany fight kabayel for wbc defence and then the winners of both fights fight for the unification .

In reality , at least i fear :

Usyk avoids kabayel , dubois avoids parker , dubois fights only usyk and of course goes suddenly down from a jab but gets payed well .

This scenario would finally tell a lot , about usyk and about dubois .

 

He is #1 wbc contender , so of course usyk could fight him for wbc title defence while parker and dubois sort out who is entitled to face the champ for unification .

That would be usyk,s last two honorable fights

Or ...

Usyk sidelines both and fights dubois for undisputed and then as his last fight the legendary jake paul ...

 

WBC interim title>WBO interim title.
0 losses>3 losses.

They are the same age and Parker got the title shot in 2017 over Kabayel. Why should he get it again? Thats so unfair.

 

0 losses > 3 losses might mean something if general level of opponents is close... It's not close though, not even remotely.

Take out the one common opponent and Kabayel has 7 years of hot trash plus a couple of unproven hypejobs, Parker has more depth in the past 3-4 years than Kabayel does in his whole career.

Simply, as above, he's got a resume that's orders of magnitude better (even allowing for losses).

Why should a guy who's proven so much more get passed over in favour of someone who's the current hype obsession of the moment? I would think that would be far, far more unfair?

 

As I'd said on multiple posts regarding this topic. Whose fault is that? Parker got oppurtunities and lost several of them, almost lost to Zhang etc. In the words of the great Clubber Lang "you got your shot now give me mine".

Kabayel was a regional champ for nearly a decade before getting his title shot. He was fighting the best the regional circuit had to offer. He was not a world champion which Parker has been for large stretches albeit a WBO one.

 

Is it Parker's?

I don't see why getting the breaks and/or earning the bigger fights should put someone to the back of the queue...

He fought nothing but dross between Chisora and Makh (and that's being kind to Makh)... Regardless of why he was doing it, 7 years of wasting time just isn't the sort of resume that propels someone into deserving a title shot - it wouldn't be a crime if he was overlooked and had to fight another contender or two (even fringe contenders) but it would be awfully unfair on Parker to have to wait when he's done more in 4 years than Kabayel has in 8...

 

Its 4 certain somebodys fault. Parker got oppurtunities Kabayel didn't. He won some and he lost some. He should not be elevated because of it.

Kabayel wasted time because he was waiting for a title shot he could have justified that entire period. He was a regional champ fighting a solid SOS. He won EBU, he won NABF, he won NABO. He wasn't ducking anyone he was patiently waiting for an oppurtunity he'd earned while fighting the best competition for him.

We got to hold contenders and champions to different standards. The burden for fighting great SOS should be on the champ(the 4 certain somebodys) not the contender.

 

Usyk will fight Dubois next

 

So vastly superior resumes shouldn't count because there's a possibility that the less proven fighter could do the same with the same opportunities (which even assumes that they didn't have them, as opposed to having opportunities and choosing not to take them)?

Sounds an awful lot like the kind of logic that's wreaking havoc with perfectly reasonable meritocracy, to me...

Regardless of whether he felt he could justify a title shot, if one wasn't coming surely he should've found ways to make the best possible fights and get into the conversation... This is a similar problem to Hrgovic choosing to sit on the sidelines instead of getting decent fights - limited sympathy here, TBH.

Generally speaking, ducking is what A-sides do when they don't want to fight particular opponents... Bit hard to be ducking anyone when you're broadly irrelevant and keeping yourself that way by fighting guys outside the top 100.

Waiting patiently in this sport has proven dumb over and over again - confident and competent fighters find ways to get good fights (whether by getting better promoters, accepting cheap terms, whatever)... It's not automatically the case that someone who's only making crap fights prefers it that way - but more often than not it's because they're happy enough with it.

 

I respect Kabayel took risks in fighting undefeated prospects when Kabayel was seen as the big underdog in Makhmudov and Sanchez although they both proved to be hype jobs.

Zhang and Chisora are both good wins but I agree none of the notable wins that Kabayel has are as special as some people make it out to be.

Kabayel is only two contenders away from a title shot IMO. He should surely be full of confidence and be willing to fight the best available considering the momentum he has.

 

Definitely - I just hope he actually goes and tries to fight more contenders...

Hopefully what he doesn't do is sit around waiting for someone to drop a big fight in his lap without making more waves first... He's on a reasonable run and starting to get harder to ignore - great, just don't ease off now and get it to a point where he completely deserves it and it'd be wrong to not give it to him (he's just not there yet!).

 

IMO only champions can be ducks today. To me contenders not taking risks is logical and I defend that behavior its what the sports demands in the year 2025. Its the champions obligation to fight the best in the division. That burden is not on the contender its on the champion and to a lesser degree the ex champion. Fighting Frank Sanchez and etc makes Kabayel one of the most qualified first time HW contenders in recent memory. Parker is not that I am not judging Parker the same way.