Why oh why oh why oh why-bare with me here -oh why oh why isn't Mosley more popular?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You thought Mayorga was boring? I don't agree with that at all, it was nip and tuck with a very exciting finish, and so was Cotto. I think that's the worst possible light fo present Sugar's recent efforts in, frankly. His last fight was as thrilling as boxing gets, the one before was about as dramatic as boxing gets, Cotto was a camel-hair decision and an exciting fight that was hugely exposed, before that we had three back to back wins taking us into 2006.

    Good pedigree for huge popularity, most especially in a day when fighters look to duck each other...Sugar wants to fight on top of all of this.
     
  2. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    Do you think it has anything to do with race? Most of the top black fighters in the U.S. are not known for being big draws. Think about the amount of tickets guys like Chad Dawson and Paul Williams sell relative to their Hispanic and white peers. Even Mayweather, until the past few years, was accused of being a B-Side who, though spectacular, relied on his opponent to pack the stands. Besides, he's more dedicated in his persona to urban, black markets than Mosley, it seems. There are, of course, exceptions, but African-American fighters who do have strong fan bases typically involve great local support, e.g., Taylor and Ward. It just seems that given the great number of superior-class black American fighters--there are 5 on my Top 10 P4P (Mayweather, Hopkins, Mosley, Williams, and Dawson)--that they are disproportionately outdrawn by others.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: Brilliant. They bring him on, big round of applause, all he says is..."I kicked his ass...again". Love it.
     
  4. toughy82

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    But he lost to Cotto who lost to Pac, not to mention he has only fought 4 times in the last 2 1/2 years. At his age, he needs to be busier, which would greatly increase his popularity. After/if he takes Berto, if I were him, I would take whatever descent fights I could at Welter, including Cotto, to create more demand for a mega-bout. He's been playing the waiting game too long IMO. Props for taking out Margo, which put him back on the map but still work to be done.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think it is a little harder actually, though i'm not keen to get into all that here. And after all, the biggest/second biggest draw in the States is Mayweather, no? He had to "work" for that mind.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Dunno though...that definitely isn't going to happen. It's hard to think of a fighter who got busier as he got older. Even Greb and Langford had to slow down.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'm not convinced Mayweather is all that popular. He gets a lot of attention because he comes out with controversial ****, and doesn't fight the best. Mosley is humble, and fightS the best...win or lose.
     
  8. BigReg

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    He could've fought Berto months ago, and would've been a unified champ. Instead, he fought no one, and now is fighting Berto anyway. He wasted months doing nothing. When he beat Hoya and was at the peak of his popularity, he wasted 3 fights on crap fighters that no one cares about. He could've fought Floyd in 2006 and he turned his nose to that fight. He could've fought Hoya a third time and turned that down. He's had his chances and blew them. Now that he's at the end of his career, he's desparate and wondering why guys who have better options aren't fighting him.
     
  9. NickBarker

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    But Mayweather was able to demonstrate his dynamic personality on a number of huge promotions that reached millions of people. As long as he kept winning those fights, which of course he did, he was bound to gain notoriety. Outside of Mayweather, though, it does seem like there is a racial disparity in popularity, at least in terms of ticket sales and ratings/buy rates. At least that's how it appears; I'd be curious if the data disproves that assertion.
     
  10. McGrain

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    No, I think you're right in what you say, but as regards Maywather he got those mainstream opportunities because of his original popularity, surely? Dawson wouldn't recieve those opportunities...

    Is there a serious African-American fanbase for boxing in the US?
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The fight against Mayorga was boring as ****. He had a good fight against Cotto, but he lost. Rarely do fighters get more popular after a loss. Do you guys think that the world simply has it out for Mosley? They don't. Mosley is not Mexican, or Puerto Rican, or Asian. He does not have a built in fanbase. He has to create a fanbase by beating popular fighters. He's done that 3 times in his career, and has failed to capitalize on the win each time. He beat Margarito and had a chance to get right back in the ring with Berto. A win against Berto puts pressure on the other guys to fight him. Instead, he decided to chase a fight that wasn't going to happen for him. He's fighting Berto now, so he can make up for it. However, he's getting long in the tooth and his time is running out. If he beats Berto, he needs to rematch Cotto, and then he'll be in a perfect position to fight Mayweather should he win(Pac will probably retire if he wins, or fight Marquez instead).
     
  12. bladerunner

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    Leonard,Tyson and Holyfield were very popular and they were black,not saying that race doesnt matter but its not the main reason why someone is popular or not.
     
  13. toughy82

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    Racism always plays but at the end of the day he did it to himself. Mayweather, Williams, SRL, Haggler, Hernes, Foreman, Ali, Tyson, Holyfield all trancended the racism issue by kicking ass.
     
  14. BigReg

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    It doesn't matter what you're convinced of. Mayweather fights do big numbers and he's one of the most recognizable name in the sport. Every fighter dreams of being in that type of position.
     
  15. bladerunner

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    :huh:huh