Why oh why oh why oh why-bare with me here -oh why oh why isn't Mosley more popular?

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    People watch Mayweather to see him lose. He's admitted that himself. That's not popularity. I will take a moment to give serious kudos to his fanbase though. They have this extraordinary ability to justify all the stupid **** their favorite fighter says, and have probably defended his decision in fighting Baldomir ("He was linear"), more times than they've actually watched him fight.

    If Shane Mosley started acting like the big shot, and then, for whatever reason, didn't fight Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito, people would be flocking in to see his interviews, and flocking in the MGM to see him get his ass beat too.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Those fighters are all from another era though. Of the new wave, black fighters have generally been less popular. There's enough time between the guys you've mentioned and now for a different trend to evolve, although we're in it, so it's hard to be sure.
     
  3. toughy82

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    Well, among boxing fans anyway, Williams is very popular. After he puts away Martinez and then Pavlik (if Pavlik has the balls) I believe PW will be one of the top five names in boxing today. The excitement that boxing fans have for him will pour over into the mainstream, especially after he is "the champ"
     
  4. toughy82

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    Mayweather, the biggest name in boxing:deal
     
  5. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosely is the reason I know most Boxing fans are ****ing stupid. Do you thiink, I really give a **** about May vs Pac? not really, Mosely is the fighter I want to see cause I know he will knock Pac the **** out, unfortunately there is no subterfuge needed by Freddy Roach in avoiding this fight because the average fan is too stupid to realize this.

    Pac vs Mosely is the real fight that I want but its like that guy that people thought was in a Coma for 23 years meanwhile the guys aware of every single thing. Thats the frustration I feel. What does he have to do! the man deystroyed Margarito and still no one wants a piece of him, too dangerous. YES! STUPID ****S ON THESE FORUMS OVERLOOK THIS GREAT FIGHTER!!! ****!

    PBF VS PAC prepare to be bored as **** all the fault will lie with Mayweather.
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Maybe because he doesn't fit a specific mold, I don't know. I have an idea why I don't feel like typing it out though.

    He should be more popular.
     
  7. FightinIrish26

    FightinIrish26 Member Full Member

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    So true.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Whether people are paying to see him win or lose, they're still paying to see Mayweather. Mayweather fought a guy coming up two weight classes, was a huge favorite, and the fight did 1 mill buys. Mosley is fighting in a unification match against a prime, undefeated fighter and it's on regular HBO. That just goes to show you the difference between the two. Mayweather is hated by many, but well liked by many as well. You can't generate the numbers he generates if everyone hates him.
     
  9. nothing to do with race.

    What does Mosley bring to the table for any opponent.

    He beats Mosley - mosley is 37/38 maybe now? It's a victory against an old man finally beginning to decline.
    He loses to Mosley - there's no real benefit, Mosley's been beat before - so it's not a major achievement, and Mosley doesn't create a huge fanbase by creating some form of anticipation - he comes across as a fairly nice guy, and just easy going to get along with.

    Mosley does bring great speed, power, fantastic chin - and it makes for a hard nights work.

    He should have just fought ANYONE after Margarito, and really followed up on that performance - build up a winning streak that keeps up interest, and builds up hype. He waited, and waited - and because of the ridiculous risk, little gain - he got frozen out, waiting for next opportunities. He should have been fighting and fighting - even if the comp wasn't 100% stellar, to keep his fitness, form and the hype going he created after Margo.

    He's now in a place of who needs him - not too dissimilar to Hopkins. He'll always be the name thrown out when discussing the top ranked fighter in a division, however - damned hard to arrange a fight with, and even harder to actually beat.

    I think by the time Mosley next fights - 12 months away from the ring at his age will make him an old fighter, and even if he beats Berto - even comfortably, his second wind he appeared to show against Margarito - it may have passed now.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's not true at all. Gatti, Tarver, Bruno and Dempsey all had their popularity enhanced by valiant losses. Close losses that are seen as unfair - as was the case for many in Cotto v Mosley, though I had Cotto winning - are especially helpful in moving a fighter on.

    Of course not. It's an interesting question to some of us is all, as this thread makes clear. There's obviously a reason for it and i'm curious to find out what that might be. Just because I don't agree with what you've said doesn't mean I think there's a conspiracy afoot.

    Like the most popular fighter since Muhammad Ali, for example? Additionally, that isn't even true. Neither Klitschko beat a hugely popular fighter, and cerainly lay less claim to "natural" fans in Germany than Sugar does in the United States.

    Like by beating one of the most popular fighters in the history of the fight-game for a second time? In actual fact, beating popular fighters in no way guarantees popularity as numerous fighters have found out.
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes, i've already pointed that out.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    But this has nothing to do with why people duck him, rather why he isn't as popular as some feel he should be.
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    The people who like Mayweather couldn't afford to buy a PPV let alone actually go to the fight. They were probably outside the MGM, and were quickly escorted away from the premises.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I just want to say one thing that I've said over and over again. It's about the Mayorga fight. Shane got flack for not obliterating Mayorga without a hitch and I keep saying, Mayorga was in the best and most serious condition I've seen him in for years leading up to that fight. He was actually boxing with Shane. He wasn't messing around and doing his craziest wild swinging like he did with Oscar years before. That was a really good version of Mayorga that showed up that night. That was a championship version. Shane did finish him out in the end though. He should get good credit for that I think. Not knocked for not making it look easy.
     
  15. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it is more because he did not have that that great winning streak at top opposition.

    When he beat DLH, he fought 3 times against mediocre opponents then he lost to Forrest.

    When he beat DLH again, he lost to Wright.

    Then he beat Mayorga but then lost to Cotto.

    Losing takes away that mystical aura built up by winning streaks..