Why oh why oh why oh why-bare with me here -oh why oh why isn't Mosley more popular?

But it amounts to the same thing.

The public (I'm speaking for the average boxing fan now), know Mosley as a respectable name - he's top ranked, associated with Goldenboy Promotions, and has been around ages.

They don't see him fight (especially not this year when he had the chance to become a MAJOR player), and the fact Margarito got banned following the fight negates the quality of that win. Cotto beat him, Cotto got stopped by Pacquiao. Mosley needs to build up hype and perception by fighting any and everyone.

In the past - he beat DLH twice, but then he lost 4 times, and it put him off the radar a bit, he starts to get back - then loses to Cotto.

He has a FANTASTIC performance - and he has the chance to be as big as he ever was, and does nothing. For 12 months.

He brings little to the table to get him top marquee fights to build up the recognition, so the only thing he can (but didn't) do, is fight the guys just below the marquee names, and get everyone talking about this 37 year old geezer from the previous generation, who is beating, stopping, ko'ing good ranked fighters, and is on a winning streak - he's bringing form, hype etc. to the table.

Right now he's a damned dangerous guy who no one knows what to expect - and a likely loss to him does no one any good. So why fight him?

 

Gatti had a built in fanbase, Tarver didn't become popular until he knocked Roy out, Bruno is English he has no popularity in the States, Brits do a good job of supporting their fighters, Dempsey fought years ago, what happened to him isn't relevant today.

I didn't say you thought there was a conspiricy. I'm telling you why he fell off, and never got back to the top. Mosley had a pretty good following up to and right after the first Hoya fight. He dropped of big time after that. The losses, lack of big wins, and inability to sustain momentem has hurt him big time.

The Kilts have a huge following in Germany. They are the highest paid athletes in Germany. And again, why do you insist on bringing up fighters that fought several years ago? That's irrelevant.

He beat Hoya once and then followed that up with 3 wins against bums and two losses. That's not going to help anyone's popularity. He turned down a 3rd fight with Hoya just to get his ass kicked by Winky Wright twice. Mosley has made several mistakes in his career. Despite this, he can still get a fight with just about any fighter out there around his weight class. Mayweather and Pac are the exceptions at present. He didn't want to fight Floyd back in 2006, he's refused to fight Williams, and he refused for a while to fight Berto. So let's not act like Mosley hasn't learned to become picky himself. Right now, Pac and Mayweather have better options on the table. When they no longer have better options, Mosley will be next in line.

 

He's a steroid user (a cheat). It's his karma to not be popular.

 

This is a great question. Why isn't Mosley more popular in spite of all of his success and talent? Well, he didn't have the huge springboard of being an Olympian. His amateur pedigree was excellent, but without the feather of the Olympics in his cap it made it a little bit more difficult for him to get immediate appeal as a professional. He's an HBO fighter but hasn't received a lot of the hype and marketing that many other HBO fighters have, which has relegated him to the lesser ranks in terms of popularity. Since he hasn't had that external push, he's been forced to rely on gaining popularity the only way he can - through his extensive boxing skills. He doesn't have the backing of practically entire nations like Hatton or Pacquiao. He doesn't have the abrasive personality and limelight-seeking skill of Mayweather. He doesn't have the kind of vicious one-punch power that might attract the average member of the sports-fan public, like Tyson.

He's a 'nice guy' and a hard-working man that does his talking in the ring, and unfortunately that has hurt him in terms of popularity. Perhaps in a fight with Mayweather and a 24/7 series he might finally achieve some of the recognition he deserves.

 

I think McGrain's point about the great black American fighters listed who were massively popular, outside of Mayweather, are from earlier eras is apt. It's uncontroversial to point out that the demographics of American boxing fans have shifted drastically to include many more Hispanics than previously (you could throw in other relatively large ethnic populations like Filipinos). If you combine that with a concomitant decrease in mainstream attention, it seems reasonable to attribute some of Mosley's lack of popularity to racial factors. While it can sometimes get out of hand, I think most of us are willing to admit and accept that race, ethnicity, and nationality play a constituent part in a fighter's following.

Does Mosley personally have other factors contributing to his relative obscurity? Of course. No one is going to be so reductivist as to claim race is the only causal factor. Nevertheless, even if you want to include Mayweather, who was once in a similar position, there is an incongruity between the amount of elite black American fighters and the amount that are significantly popular.

 

what specific people are you refering to?

 

shane is cool, but he fuked up with the steroids, just like margo ****ed up with the wraps

 

The ones who justify everything Floyd had said and done. They can only be stupid people.

 

But why can't they afford a ticket to his fight or a pay per view?

 

Stupid people either don't go to job interviews, or they go and say, "I have nothing to prove" when the interviewer asks them why they think they deserve the job?

 

Good thread, I really admire Mosely both in and out of the ring. It has been said previous that he lacks a strong profile for people to identify with, and I partially agree with this. He is a calm guy who don't try to offend anyone, he isn't taking the stage like he could have and he don't have a smaller country backing him like Pac. At the same time I don't think anyone really hates him, because he's humble and respectful, keeping himself out of controversy. The roids didn't do his image any good of as mentioned, that's bad for any fighter.

 

Yeah, many more people tuned in hoping to see him lose. The 'average' American sports fan really doesn't give a crap about the science of boxing or the execution of good jabs to the body or a tight defense and great upper-body movement. They want action-packed fights, or drama. Media capitalizing on Floyd acting as the bad-guy gives them the drama they want so they can pick a side and root against him. Hello, PPV dollars.

Great marketing strategy by Floyd.