why prime mike beats lewis

How many times was Lewis Ko'd? Twice.

Tyson? 5 times.

They fought till about the same age.

You want to talk about chins or durability?

 

Just like he had no trouble finding Buster Douglas' suspect chin?

 

The first couple of rounds Tyson is all over Smith .Then in the third nursing a cut Smith starts to box ,but his right continually goes over Tyson's head, and his jab has nothing on it ,Smith doesn't throw the uppercut.Lewis had a better jab than Bone- crusher and a very effective uppercut .I pick Lewis ,but it would be a close fight for about 10 rds.Smith was intimidated,Lewis would not be.

 

The uppercut was always a punch that Mike was wide open for, provided his opponent knew how to throw one and had the guts to. A washed up Tillis used the uppercut and gave Tyson his closest, toughest pre-Douglas fight by far. Douglas used the same strategy but better, and it paid off dividends. Things would only get worse with Lennox. And neither Douglas nor Tillis needed solid chins to do what they did either.

 

With you, that makes two girl friend's he's got then.

 

Douglas and Tillis have been badly KO'd too. Didn't matter when they fought Tyson.

 

:rofl

 

Lewis went 8 rounds, thats true. Whats also true is that wasn't a peak Lewis. The 2002 Lewis was 60-70% of the 97-99 Lewis.

It's a close fight. To say 87-88 Tyson makes him his girlfriend completely negates any argument you have forth with since it's obvious that if you could rim Tyson you would.

I think you're a wind-up merchant. Fact is peak Tyson never fought anyone near the standard of a peak Lewis and vice versa.

 

Newb.

My Dear 2 nonsense,

I am fine with if you think that Lewis would win, its a opinion.

However you are pretty clueless with your comparisons.

Tillis was not a difficult fight, a green Tyson got a knockdown and besides that won at least 7 rounds while not even twenty yet and coming in for the bout with symphons of the flue. Also Mike was not troubled by uppercuts but the bodyshots bothered him in that fight.

For the Buster fight he literally woke up in a whorehouse on fight nite. Source ? Jay Bright disclosed it to me when Mike started to train again after his stint in the can.

You have never been Ringside( or at any Pro Gym )at any fight and simply spout off what you "heard, "read" and other associated nonsense on the net and that makes you the typical professional interner debater .

 

lewis has to use his jab a lot more in this fight and as its a good one he
could be lumpin up tysons face before landing that big right.
tysons foot speed and lateral movement in his younger days was incredible and he could do it
it would be a huge fight! if only

 

Look who's talking.

Uh oh, someone feels the need to hide behind insults. Not a good indication of the confidence you have in your point.

Tell that to everyone who actually saw or was even remotely involved in the fight. Including Tyson's handlers and Tyson himself.

No, he didn't. 6 rounds to 4 was a very viable score. Just like 2 of the 3 judges had it.

You mean like Douglas did going into his fight with Tyson?

Actually, it was both. Which he acknowledged himself.

Big deal. Douglas had to contend with the death of his mother. That, and being sick enough in the days before the fight that he almost wasn't allowed to fight. Oh, but I guess that only matters when it can be used as an excuse for Tyson.

So if the excuse comes from Jay Bright, that means it carries more weight than any other excuse?

Where's your "source" for that? Did your buddy Jay Bright tell you that? If he did, tell him he's dead wrong, and that only a complete and utter dumbass would just assuming something like that about someone he never met and knows nothing about.

NEWSFLASH: Tyson lost to Douglas. That's not a "rumor".

But you know what is? Crap like "Tyson had the flu", "Tyson was in a whorehouse", "You've never been to a fight", etc. - you know, the very bull**** you just based your whole so-called "point" on.

 

Ironically if you watch all 12 its a pretty good argument that Lewis would have been able to deal with that version of Tyson and would land much much heavier shots than Smith and tire Mike out a hell of a lot more.

 

Wouldn't you say that, given the fact that Tyson never lasted the distance and was stopped by Douglas and Holyfield, who are light hitters compared to Lewis, it's reasonable to keep the "Lewis knocks him out late" open as an option?


As for their actual fight, i think you can only conclude two things from it:

-Lewis can took Tyson's best punch; Tyson landed a full leverage left hook flush on his jaw, right when Lennox was in the process of throwing a punch... those are the ones that knock you out, but nothing happened. This is just for the Zakman's who say "If McCall and Rahman knocked him out, then Lewis is FLAT OUT COLD when Tyson lands his first punch":

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-The reverse is even more proven.. Tyson takes on hell of a shot and needs to be wore down in order to be stopped.

-Lewis is not intimidated by Tyson.


All other conclusions like "this fight shows how Lewis' jab would be neutralized", "it would be like the first round but then for 12 rounds" are bull****. Even during his peak, Tyson slowed down significantly past the 5th and he rarely scored a knockout once past that point. Lewis will have to impose his will early on Tyson. He's never been intimidated by an opponent (even ones who knocked him out) and most certainly won't be by Tyson, just like he wasn't during their actual fight. He was 36 himself, by the way, when he fought Iron Mike.

 

He actually floored Douglas with one punch and probably would of finished him had he not been saved by the bell.

And the whole process of taking a fighters worst fight and using it as if it's the only fight that matters in their entire career is pretty flawed

I could say because Rahman blasted him out, Tyson has no trouble finding it. When obviously he would be in for a tough night against Lewis just as Lewis would be in for the fight of his life against prime Tyson.