Why Prime Mike Tyson beats a 70s George Foreman

Tyson wasn't prime in the Holyfield fights. His defense was much worse and he squared up too much. His hand speed was less. And he wasn't as focused or well trained.

 

let me guess so he knock his own self out right Evander had nothing to do with it.

 

First uppercut Tyson shakes it off ? First uppercut Tyson would be looking for his teeth and a place to lay down

 

yea a 40 something George that TYSON DUCKED.

 

My problem with Tyson would be his psychological make up not his physical capabilities . The 1st fighter he fought who wasn't completely intimidated by him he loss too. The 2nd fighter he didn't intimidate he (Tyson) bit his ear off. And did it twice!. ( he wanted to get disqualified) What would Tyson do against a bigger bully than he was?(Think about that for a moment, no A.T.G in the looonnng history of boxing never tried to go out that way, what does it say about who he was, deep down inside?) Tyson had the skill set to be considered the G.O.A.T. It's mentally and that well hidden self doubt that would cost him in the ring against a Pre Ali Foreman, Liston, Or Frazier or Holmes or Louis for that matter. Foreman would fight Tyson pretty much the same way he fought Frazier, push him off balance, with that great physical strength. Nail him when he re-sets his offense. Tyson as proven even in his prime against lesser competition would become hesitant. And that would be his down fall against a Foreman, or Liston, or Frazier.

 

Flash 24 couldn't have said it better.Tyson a bully.When the tough gets going he quits Tell me when Ali or Foreman ever quit.
Boxing is 90 % mental.Tyson mentally stronger then Ali and Foreman ? gtfooh.
Name a great fighter Tyson beat ?

 

1973 Foreman (6-3,217) would be smaller than EVERY fighter Tyson fought between Berbeck and Bruno except Michael Spinks who was 6-2.5, 212). Tyson didn't have problems getting by lots of boxers with more height and reach than Foreman. Foreman would be smaller and slower than the boxers Tyson had been facing. Can't see Foreman pushing the 5-11, 217 pound Tyson anywhere.

If Foreman reached out with both hands to push Tyson, Tyson would rip him inside and make him pay. When a fighter reaches out to push he leaves the liver, spleen and solar plexus open. Against Tyson that would be the end. Foreman tired badly against Ali, Peralta, and Young and they didn't punish him like Tyson would. Foreman doesn't have the style or the physicality to bother prime Mike Tyson.

 

Mike is a very inexperienced boxing fan. He confuses old Foreman during his comeback, the Foreman post Ali prior to retiring after losing to Young and PRIME Foreman. We are talking prime Foreman. Prime Foreman was not slow, had a granite chin and tremendous will to win. His jab during that time period was called the best jab since Joe Louis. The fighter that fought Frazier in 73, Norton and Ali would punch holes through any swarmer who came to him. If Tyson was a boxer ala Ali or Young it's a potential different story.

 

What are you trying to say by different...that he was a better fighter in the 90,s surely not. He was snail pace slow. Improved on some aspects of his game but he definately wasnt the force of the 70,s. But it did sort of shows foremann was also a bit of a one off himself. Cant imagine many fighters taking ten years off putting on that amount of weight and still being sucessful. He was still competing with the guys in the 90,s. Thats crazy when you think about it.

Still quite telling that 90,s foremann took jameson out in the same time it took prime tyson. The truth is ali exposed foremann. Like he exposed liston. But without ali...

I dont mean push him back physically as in push him with his hands. I mean push him back by fighting him. Make tyson give up ground. Anyone ever have foreman moving backwards?

If you look through tysons career it was the guys that pushed him back that beat him. A lot of these guys mike fought tried to box him off the backfoot. With his offence he would almost always catch up with you. It was basically tyson attacking. Then resetting then going again. To beat him you had to stand up to him and push him back. Foremann had the tools to do that for me. Holyfield done it. Mcbride done it. Lewis done it. Every one that ever beat him done it. Tbf it wasnt prime tyson...but the blueprint was there. He never faced anyone as powerful as george who could put his punches together like george could. And if he had you going...he put it on you. Same as tyson tbf. As i said great fight. But my money would be on george. And theres not many i d back against tyson in his prime.

 

Larry Holmes, who's like a slightly less powerful version of Wlad.

 

Holmes was old and had not fought in two years. Are you joking???????