Why Prime Mike Tyson beats a 70s George Foreman

A 38 year old George Foreman said ,,anybody who thinks Mike Tyson can beat George Foreman is insane" I believe George

 

So did Foreman.

 

One of the best quotes to be posted on this site. Seems almost everyone here correlates size and weight with punching power. And yes it could be a difference if a fighter is well over 200lbs fighting someone well under 200 lbs but at certain point, a great fighter between 200 -220 lbs will defeat a good fighter weighing 250 lbs or more, history proved that time and time again. Tyson Fury is 6'9" over 250 lbs but hits like a middleweight, because his technique completely sucks. 6'9 Primo Canera was completely destroyed by J.Louis. a very talented giant R.Bowe couldn't stop a blown up cruiserweight with a bad heart. 6'6" puncher Gerry Cooney looked amateurish against the smaller L.Holmes, and a even smaller M.Spinks walked right through him. A natural middle, R.Jones defeated J.Ruiz easily. Skill and technique will supersede size and weight more often than not. D. Wilder / A.Joshua are good athletics but are very limited skill wise(to me, they don't past the eye test) big athletic big men, usually fighting less skilled smaller men, or men beyond their primes. It's easy to look good against 3rd rate competition. But give me Earnie Shavers any day. Ali, Holmes, and many other fighters who actually fought LIVE competition said he was the hardest puncher they every fought. I will error on the side of A.T.G's anyday.

 

Such dumbed down responses i dont know where to start so i'll keep it short. Boxing is about hitting and not getting hit first. Tyson was the best defensiive fighter in history at one point up against a guy with some VERY poor defense .So do the math how long this will last when you include speed factor ?

the longer this fight goes also the sloppier Foremn would get ( though its not going long at all).

Tyson knocks out the come forward easy to hit Foreman ( whos chin was not made to withstand guys who hit harder than Lyle THEN ) within 3 rnds bc he will do ALL the work for Tyson and force the knockout on himself..

1980's Tyson K.o Rnd 3.

1990's Tyson Rnd 6 .

 

Galv. Ridiculous comments.

Prime Foreman had the best jab since Joe Louis. He also had crippling power and physical strength.

The way to beat Tyson or one way to beat him is keeping him backing up. Foremans physical strength, great pole like jab and underrated speed would keep Tyson on his back foot.

Once Tyson tastes the Foreman power he becomes a different fighter. More tentative, confused. No plan B. End of the bout comes soon after.

The Foreman Lyle fought was probably the worst Foreman in his prime years. No real fight in 15 months and coming off his surprise loss to Ali. One thing the fight did show was Georges ATG will to win. He came back on the verge of a loss to ko a top contender. In a similar position Tyson would have been koed.

 

the argument for Tyson which is not for Frazier is he was a little better two handed offense.

 

He beat plenty of guys who weren't "completely intimidated" by him. You should check out some of his late 80s fights some time...

 

Tyson best thing was countering jabs,the more jabs you throw thee easier the fight will be for Tyson. Tyson was also NEVER out jabbed under rooney which is irrelevant in this match bc sloppy Foreman would get picked apart by the end of rnd 3 if it lassted that long bc tyson is going to land sooner than later.

Its nonsene in itself to label foreman the favorite here,anyone who truly understands each strengths and weaknesses would see that.Foreman was so invincible he got laid out by Jimmy young a 210 pounder witha 20% k.o percentage had him wobbling all over and no reinventing of your version of history changes that. But Foreman is going to bully Tyson?

The only guy he fought of similar attributes was Ron lyle and he was saved by the bell.....Stop the nonsense.....lol

And Louis having the best jab next to Foreman? Get out under that rock!

 

I don't know who would win but l do know you can't use the Young fight to justify any outcome as this wasn't Foreman's normal fighting style. I believe he had new trainer at the time named Gil Clancy and he was trying to get Foreman to pace himself and as a result he didn't fight his normal fight. Neither can the Lyle fight be used because there was a long layoff prior to this fight. Just as l would discard Tyson's fight with Holyfield for much the same reason. I do think Foreman hit harder than almost any fighter who ever fought especially with the upper cut and shots to the body. The overhand right was also a hard punch but it certainly wasn't direct. If you think about it Foreman's best chance of winning would be if a fighter came right at him. This requires less energy than having to chase down a fighter and if you catch a fighter coming at you it had more impact. But certainly Tyson was faster both in hand and feet and threw great combinations. My concern about Tyson isn't his ability to take punches to the head he definately can do that but Foreman also threw some vicious body punches those landing could be the difference. But at the end of the day it likely comes down to who hurts who first. If Tyson can land a few combinations prior to Foreman landing a punch that hurts Tyson he probably wins, if not he probably looses. I'm also one of the few people who think but for those loose ropes in Zaire Ali likely would have lost that fight. Foreman wasted a ton of energy trying to hit Ali in the head and Ali's ability to simply lean back and avoid these punches had pretty big influence in the fight. And neither do l think many fighters could have survived those body punches, some if those shots were just vicious. But regarding Tyson Foreman it's a tough call, but l would be using the Young or Lyle fights to justify an outcome nor the Holyfield fights for the reasons mentioned.

 

Stop this nonsense. Tyson has weaker heart, weaker chin, less power and is way smaller. Its not even close. He doesnt stand a chance.

 

Trash post. Refer to my initial breakdown for the very real chance Tyson possesses.