Why punch output doesn't mean ***

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  1. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    Yes... but he knew that taking a bomb in order to land 4-5 punches was a good investment...

    Problem is when you're getting countered and you're not able to hit the other guy. This is when fighters become self-conscious vs. Bernard.

    Calzaghe will not be landing much in there, and that's going to be a new situation for him.
     
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  2. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Keep trying to convince yourself
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

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    Maybe NOT?
    :lol:
     
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  4. Sebastien

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    I've been convinced for a long time about the outcome of this one.

    This is why I bet my presence on this discussion board on a Hopkins victory.
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

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    This is another oft-repeated myth from the Calzaghe faithful which undermines the fact that the punches which hurt most aren't necessarily the most powerful punches, but rather, those which are well set-up and you never see coming.
     
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  6. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Often the big punches he has been hit with he hasn't seen - watch the Reid fight.
     
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  7. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Oh well, nice meeting you briefly.:D
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Just saying, two of the most frequently used arguments stemming from your typical Calzaghe fan are sheer nonsense.
     
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  9. Fat Joe

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    Though it is true the one Mitchell dropped him with he didn't see coming.
     
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  10. Sebastien

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    He's also open body punches... given that his defense his based on upper body movement more than anything else, working the body should pay for B-Hop.
     
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  11. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    Calzaghe has a huge output against Lacy and a far reduced output against Kessler. Does Joe need a huge output to win? No.
     
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  12. wayne3280

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    I hope not...I've already had one big disappointment...this ****ing thread.
     
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  13. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    very interesting post man :good...I have always been feeling that Hopkins will make this a VERY hard fight for Calzaghe but somehow I felt the business of Calzaghe will win him rounds kinda like when Hopkins lost against Taylor.

    But I never thought about looking up those numbers like that, very interesting - It kinda goes to show the kind of technical master Hopkins is in the ring.
     
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  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I said before that work-rate will not be a significant issue in this fight. Joe's accuracy just isn't that great. He had a 28% connect rate against Kessler who stood in front of him like a ****ing robot. Against BHop I would not be surprised to see Slappy Joe's connect rate drop to under 20%!

    Boo
     
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  15. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    28% seriously?
     
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