Why Ray Leonr isn't a true legend

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  1. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Terry Norris sure let Keith Mullings, Dana Rosenblatt, and Laurent Boudouani get away with kicking his ass.

    I wonder why Norris didn't want any more after those drubbings. I can't believe, at the tender age of 29, he'd let Mullings beat his career into submission.

    I guess Hagler was getting kind of old when he faced Leonard. He was only about 2 years younger than Leonard was when he faced Norris. I still can't believe Hagler let Leonard beat him into retirement.
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Leonard is a legend.
    [Some Legend's are Murderer's outside the ring...]
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe thats because leonard was too chicken for a rematch, the reason being he knew he lost. Like he said at the post fight interview "I'm beat and want to go home"
     
  4. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Someone claimed he was on the downlow.I hope that's not true.
     
  5. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Hopkins was 2 years older than Leonard when his career took off so what's your point?
     
  6. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So that's where this comes from Rooster!!! I never knew where all the hatred stemmed from! I'm no Leonard fan either in honesty, dont really disllike him though either.

    PS- Your first fave Garden moment, the best part is after it when he's in the ring, he cried, Roberto cried, when the fans went wild for him.
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember sitting up in the cheap seats watching Marvin destroy Mustafa. The place almost came down from the noise. The young Olympians were dull by comparison.

    BTW, it's considered to be cool if you're a Hagler fan or a Duran fan.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :patsch Sugar Ray Leonard is the truth. He has the best 4 wins in the history of boxing, and his win to overcome Hagler is a remarkable achievement - up there with Ali vs Foreman and Douglas vs Tyson.

    Top 3 P4P all time for my money. Not based on longevity, but skillwise, resume, and his ability to overcome all obstacles make him special.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not to mention the worst loss in history to Norris (3-1 underdog). Not much of an overcomer now is he? :yep
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Norris-Leonard. Can you say "choke"?
     
  11. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Leonard was shot. Ray looked about done when he won the light-heavyweight title from LaLonde, and that was three years earlier.

    Mentioning the Norris-Leonard fight is like mentioning Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis, Eric Morales vs David Diaz, Muhammad Ali vs Holmes, Roy Jones Jr vs Glenn Johnson, Duran vs Pazienza, Holmes vs Tyson. They were way past their best, and the loss in no way hurts their overall legacy.

    Prime Leonard always defeats prime Norris.
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was doing just fine until Norris put the fear of God in him with that left hook and uppercut. Leonard knew his place-second place.
     
  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Because this is not a normal fighter we're talking about. It's Ray Leonard, quite possibly boxing's biggest star and talent ever. Any time Ray Leonard is in the ring his opponent is sharing the ring with greatness, and should be grateful. Whether he won or lost in his first encounter with Duran is unimportant. Duran was the one receiving the opportunity with a rematch.

    Sorry, I was trying to be as silly as you only coming from another angle.

    I was stating they fought again shortly after their first encounter. You had suggested that Leonard waited 9 years for a rematch. Leonard waited 9 years for a 3rd fight that was all about a pay day with very little in the way of historical significance.
     
  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: I wasn't the one who stated that. That quote came from another poster, Radianttwilight although he was 100% correct in what he said.

    You however are incorrect. Leonard never waited for anyone. He makes other people wait as befits a pampered son of royalty. Don't think he was too anxious for another go at Norris though after that bruising. Leonard wasn't especially fond of getting hit.