Why Ray Leonr isn't a true legend

Leonard was such a great fighter. The definition of a true legend, unlike those punks Tony Ayala and Hector "The Runner" Camacho.

 

I don't see how I was being silly when I stated that Duran gave someone a rematch. Fighters that lose don't give rematches, they demand them (and sometimes receive them).

I am not redrooster - I am not arguing against Leonard's place as an ATG in boxing history. I was merely pointing out a fallacy.

I'm not going to play the redrooster angle here because, again, I am not him. I do find it odd, however, that a rubber match was 9 years seperated from the second fight of the trilogy.

Is there another instance in boxing history where there was such a gap in the fights of an epic trilogy, especially when the first two fights were as legendary as Duran-Leonard I and II?

 

I have to give it to you Rooster, you persist with perhaps the silliest discussion on this forum no matter how many people tell you this. Normally such crazy bias is expressed towards a fighter (Wealthy Elite's bias towards Tyson being the prime example here), but against? I think it's kind of fun in a way. It sure is strange.

Before his injury enforced lay-off he faced tougher opposition (Benitez, Duran and Hearns) in about 30 fights than most do in their entire career, so what of it if he was somewhat calculated in his comeback? Beating Hagler certainly was one of top 5 achievements in boxing history in any case. I thought Hearns should have won the rematch, but Leonard still showed tons of heart and determination. No shadow on him there.

If you feel that he didn't have a long enough career and solid enough championship reign at any weight to rank in top 10 p4p, so be it. But to call a guy like him a fraud, and doing so over and over? Are you really so pissed off by him beating Hagler and making a fool out of Duran?

 

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The only possible way to criticise Ray is to bring up his fights when he was a shot fighter. It's credit to how good a prime Sugar Ray Leonard was. :good

Enjoy one of the very best.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QNnRfqvb_kw&feature=related

 

Ray Leonard was a great fighter -an all-time great fighter. That really is beyond dispute.

The question is... was he he legend? First, we should come to terms as to what a "legend" is.

 

Tommy Hearns was extremely fast and was twice the puncher Norris was. Leonard knocked him out and was the first to defeat the man. Terry was just fortunate enough to come along when Ray Leonard was a spent force, and I think he should ever be credited with actually defeating "the" Leonard we saw dominate in the 80s.

Prime Ray Leonard was Benitez, Duran x2, Hearns.

 

leonard is a legend and ATG no doubt. but i do have a problem when people put him in the top 10 of all time. he never did enough. his prime was too short and that comeback in 1988 was an insult to boxing. leonard is no five weight world champion.

how can you win a light heavyweight title by fighting at super middleweight?

he is a three weight champ at best (if you reckon he beat hagler)

 

Don't forget when they tried to match SRL with
Pipino Cuevas, Ray said "no thank you".