Why should a steroid user like Mosley deserve a shot at Pac? Cotto deserves the shot

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  1. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    I thought sports was supposed to promote the clean athletes and punish the cheaters? So why should someone like Mosley, who has admitted to using illegal performance enhancing drugs, get a shot at Pacquiao when Cotto has never been accused of taking any drugs and not to mention he already holds a win over Mosley.

    Mosley is probably still on steroids in my opinion. He is almost 38 years old and he still has amazing speed and power; that's not normal for a human being that's nearly 38. Athletes usually deteriorate in physical attributes such as speed and power around the age of 35.

    Guys like Bernard Hopkins have compensated for this deterioration by being so skilled in fundamentals and technique, but Mosley has never been known as being fundamentally sound; he's always relied on speed and power and somehow he's still relying on it at an age where other guys like Roy Jones have seen major drop-offs in their physical attributes.

    I know I have no evidence for this claim, but it's logical reasoning.

    1.) Mosley has not dropped off that much physically at an age where it happens to ALL ATHLETES... Look what happened to guys like De La Hoya and Roy Jones when they were around 35 years old.

    2.) Mosley had previously lied about not using performance enhancing drugs.
     
  2. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Exactly, so shut up and stop making foundless remarks about one of the best fighters in the game. He admitted his error and, in my opinion, the EPO did nothing to help him in that fight. You do realise what EPO is meant to do right? What drugs, specifically, do you know of that would help him to retain his speed? As for the power thing, it's an old adage in boxing that it's the last thing you lose. So I don't know what on earth you're talking about there.
     
  3. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    He admitted his error only because he was called before the Supreme Court and he didn't want to face jailtime.

    What did he do when he wasn't facing prison? Lie blatantly about being clean and never touching PEDs. Mosley is a cheater and he's probably still cheating. What other 38 year olds do you know have the same speed from when he was 25?
     
  4. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Yeah..steroids give a lot of speed...:tired
     
  5. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    sounds to me you dont want this fight because you are scared for PAC to face Mosley:hey
     
  6. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    You conveniently skimmed over my other points which leads me to believe you're an ignoramus.:good
     
  7. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Would make sense, given the amount of disrespect he's shown Mosley in the thread. He's obviously just a Pac fan and not a boxing fan. Just another to add to the pile.
     
  8. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    And you're an idiot if you think EPO is the only thing he's ever used just because he said so.

    He's lied about it before -- what makes you think he's telling the truth now you dope?
     
  9. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    Mosley doesn't deserve a shot because he's a cheater.
     
  10. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    You're reaching my friend. Reaching big time.
     
  11. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "but Mosley has never been known as being fundamentally sound."

    Your threads are gold, they really are.

    I'd be interested to hear about "the handspeed 'roid". That must be quite the product.

    I'll admit, I like Shane. I think he's a credit to the sport and I really wish there wasn't that cloud around him. You don't think that level of suspicion/vigilence would make him LESS likely to use going forward? As you said, it's "logical reasoning".

    Keep up the fine threads, though. Your ability to think of wacky things to go on about is almost unparalled on the forum - and that's an achievement!

    (Oh, does this mean JMM is on roids as well, then?)
     
  12. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Does Cotto deserve to be weight drained?
     
  13. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    What part of Mosley's fighting is fundamentally sound? Is it the way he pulls straight back from shots instead of slipping them? Is it the way every time he faced a fighter with a tight defense, a good jab, and an ability to feint, he loses?

    And no, the level of suspicion would not make him less likely to use it going forward. Barry Bonds was under constant suspicion when he was setting records, but he was clearly still taking steroids.

    Oh, and Marquez is a million times the technican Mosley will ever be, not to mention Marquez is a lot more fundamentally sound.
     
  14. Swann

    Swann I'm secretly Marc. Shh... Full Member

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    Has nothing to do with Mosley cheating. But if Cotto wants a shot at his biggest purse ever, he has to make concessions against the cash cow. This is not new to boxing. De La Hoya did it. Ray Leonard did it. The guy who brings the money calls the shots and that guy is Manny Pacquiao.

    :good
     
  15. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    "Fundamentally sound". A rather broad term wouldn't you say?