"Why should I rematch him?" Teofimo Lopez says he will leave Loma behind to fight his "leftovers”

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by xnico, Oct 4, 2021.


Is Lopez ducking Lomachenko?

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  2. No

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  1. StiffJeb

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    Very little happened in the first half, very few scoring shots, and Loma landed the better clean headshots in round 2, I don't think its too generous to give him that round.

    It was controversial because the scorecards were far too wide, Cheatham's only being semi-reasonable. Considering how the fight favoured Lomachenko for the second half, mostly heavily, and he was clearly underperforming in the first half, and the shoulder 'excuse' seems to add up: it's a narrow win that deserves a rematch.

    We're not just talking about betting odds when it comes to favourites, the point is 'who is the better fighter?' and how do most people answer that question? If it's the fighter that lost the first time: a rematch is seemly.
    Lopez did well in the twelfth but that doesn't make up for the fact that he lost every other round in which Loma was active.

    'Invincible' or not, he had and still has a much grander reputation than Lopez. Even besides that, he was the champ, and undefeated for some time. If you take that away from someone you're generally expected to give them a chance to take it back if they want it. Much more so in a very close fight.
     
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  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Loma wouldn't have fought him again
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, 2 out of 3 scorecards were ridiculously wide. But the 116-112 wasn't controversial
    He arguably didn't loose every single round in rounds 7-12. A lot of people scored the 7th for Lopez, it was close and although i didn't but a lot did. I get your point. Loma was coming strong but Lopez came through. I'd love to see a rematch. I think Loma takes it, Never once denied that. But im not going to go crazy if Lopez wants to move on to other big names like Josh Taylor or a Postal or a Haney and especially if he wins those fights because i think he clearly won the Lomachenko fight
     
  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beat convincingly? LOL... The argument for Lopez is him taking the first 6 rounds... 1. even if he did (which he didn't) he won those rounds following Loma around barely landing a glove on him.. At best the early rounds he landed a few body shots and arm/elbow shots. He couldn't land a glove on Lomas head until he started rushing his work in round 12.

    2. Loma won rounds 2 and 6, which I've debated time and time again on this forum but no one has provided a convincing argument for Lopez. As he won rounds 2, 6, (7-this is the most debateable), 8, 9, 10, 11, Loma secured a at least a draw.

    3. This is a Loma with one arm and outweighed by the brave weight bully Lopez, and yet Lopez still didn't deserve the W.
     
  5. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol just wrong, you're changing the narrative because of you're fanboyism of this obvious weight bully.

    And again we have debated round 2 and 6 (i think it was round 2 we did) and you embarrassed yourself resorting to being dishonest because your ego couldn't handle conceding in the slightest. Round 2 and 6 were far from clear Lopez rounds and Loma deserved them. Being generous, 2 is 10-10.. Round 6 is a clear Loma round.. That commentary with Bradley jizzing your pants and Lopez flashy punches to Lomas arms/shoulder/chest clearly swayed you.

    In terms of landed punches round 2 up to 6 are extremely close.. Nothing convincing at all.. If you consider walking forward not landed punches effective aggression go ahead, but I don't subscribe to that nonsense

    I have rounds 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 to Loma... The most debatable out of all those is round 7.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah and tons of people have rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, and 12 for Lopez. You're a biased guy so I'm not going to take your word seriously. You do everything to discredit wins from fighters that beat your favorite fighters. I've already dubunked this :duh. Alright quina, count punches landed in rounds 2 and 6. And give me the answer to how many punches Lomachenko landed vs Lopez in this round, because I've already schooled you on this topic.

    Go ahead, count and give me your results
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've already done this you clown and you resorted to exaggerating anything Lopez threw. You demonstrated that your extreme bias and inability to score clenaly anded punches. And here we go with the spin. Stop being a fanboy
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Already done this, read over it
     
  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol you're actually a moron living in fantasy land thinking your just plain wrong dumbass comments are right.

    I'm not debating rounds with you I've put you in the Shadow category... Because just like him you're biased (and just outright stupid) and have no idea what clean punching is.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Glancing but clear blows or shots that Lomachenko partially rolled still count. These aren't grazing, probing punches or blocked shots Lopez landed, they still clearly had affect. We've already been over this.
     
  12. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i cant blame teofimo for going after a career high purse against a much less riskier opponent in kambosos, how was he supposed to know all of this **** would go down and **** up the fight?
     
  13. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When he first won, he was charting a very interesting course and I thought it would be more interesting to see what he did outside of a Loma rematch.

    One year later Loma has shown that he really wants it. He proved that he still has the physical goods against Nakatani and no other good matchup seems close to happening so let's have that rematch.

    I wouldn't call it a duck though. Too many people won't fight any high risk opponent, much less a top P4P/generational talent, even once. Some are even coming out and admitting to it and still expecting fan support. A word loses all meaning if it applies to everyone.
     
  14. Reg

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    Teo won because Loma gave away rounds due to inactivity. Loma pushed Teo in during the second half and Teo wasn't coping with it that well. It's a fight that kind of does need a rematch.
     
  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Personally, i have not mentioned such clauses should be standard

    They shouldn't absolutely right

    My point is he can't go crying for a rematch when he loses and expect one

    Lopez annoys the hell outta me but he has every right to now create his own path and if Loma isn't part of it, thats his choice

    Unless he becomes a mandatory, that different