Why should Wlad lose millions not facing Chisora coz Haye didn't sort out his mando?

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    David Have fans argue that a) Wlad is responsible for the fight falling apart for the July date suited for German and UK TV, because he takes on Chisora in April, and that forces Haye to take on mandatory Chagaev in May, and b) Haye won't fight Chagaev in April off-PPV, because it doesn't make money sense.

    For the sake of the argument I accept these, but you have to answer these questions:
    1) if Haye is such a huge draw, why can't he make millions fighing Chagaev off-PPV in April from tickets sells, advertisement money, Off-PPV TV fee, international revenue and sponsors?
    2) why can't he pay Chagaev a step-aside fee?
    3) why didn't he fight Chagaev instead of Fraudley in the 1st place? We wouldn't even have this issue, and 4)

    WHY SHOULD WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO LOSE MILLIONS BY NOT FACING CHISORA AND GO DIRECTLY FOR HAYE - BECAUSE DAVID HAYE CAN'T SORT OUT HIS MANDATORY ISSUES? WHY SHOULD HE PAY FOR HAYE'S PROBLEMS?
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Instead of all that why didnt they just pustpone the wlad-haye fight till august.
     
  3. kelics

    kelics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    stop posting billions of threads about haye vs klitshcko. just forget about it. if it happens it happens, there is nothing we can do!
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. Pay Chagaev off or do it in August for Chrissakes, but don't "walk away". Boxing needs this fight.
    OK, this is the last one, at the end of the day it's not up to us. I'm just curious how Haye fans will respond to this.
     
  5. horst

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    My response on this issue will not change:

     
  6. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    1. Sky have a pre determined date with Amir khan for the April date.
    2. Why would he need to pay chageav step asid money if wlad wont fight at any other time apart from april.
    3. if you nhever knew boxing is a business and harrison was a fight to grant big uk exposure.

    Which he was actually entitled to as he was only two defences in.
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't wanna change your opinion, just answer to this: why should Wlad pay millions for Haye's mandatory problems? He could fight twice but should fight only once and lose like a €10.000.000 payday because his opponent has mandatory issues? Seriously?
     
  8. horst

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    Erm, yes. If I'm being honest, yes I think he should. Simple as that. A superfight with Haye should be the only priority right now. **** Chisora, **** the money from that fight, make the fight with Haye NOW, pocket much more money, then go back to fighting the Chisoras of this world afterwards. Chisora isn't going anywhere. :deal
     
  9. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    The problem isn't Haye not wanting to fight his mandatory, the problem is Haye wanting to maximize revenues under a timetable which suits him. Believe me, if Haye-Chagaev earned him the same money Haye-Harrison did, he would have no problem in taking this fight.

    Due to him retiring in October 2011, he's working to a very tight schedule now. He wants his remaining two fights to be the biggest possible earners.
     
  10. Dr Obnoxious

    Dr Obnoxious Sesame Street Heavyweight Full Member

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    If Vlad is so sure of his talents, fight Haye in July and then **** up Chisora in September. That way he gets his two fights.
     
  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vlad wasn't anticipating the Haye fight to be only available in July - a date which is pretty far away. He and his team were under the impression they'll have it set for April. But little did they realize, Sky would be unable to accomodate a PPV in that month. So Wlad then must have thought....."****, if it's in July, then that means I'd be out of the ring for 10 months. That's too long. I may just go ahead with that Chisora fight in April to stay busy, and meet Haye in July or August."

    But then Haye's like...."**** that. I wanna retire before October. I've only got two fights left. I can't be ****ed wasting one of them on a shitty tune-up which gives me little money. I don't want Wlad fighting Chisora, because it ****s up my gay plans!"
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Following your logic this question is inevitable: so why did HAYE go for money (Audley) over mandatory (Chagaev) last year? Why didn't he sort out the mandatory so there would be no issues with the Wlad superfight? Haye went for the Chisoras himself by fighting Audley, and left the Chagaev obstacle in the way which now kills the fight at least for July. Why should Wlad pay for Haye's choice of money over mandatory?
     
  13. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where Vitali in all this, why is he so quiet?
     
  14. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Harrison fight was easier to hype in England. It gave him the better position to earn money come the Klitschko fight, don't you think? Seemed like a good move at the time, I'm sure. And maybe it was.
     
  15. BigBone

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    And with that he left Chagaev for the new year, and in the new year Chagaev kills the fight unless Haye takes the short money fighting off PPV, pays money to step aside, or asks Wlad to pay it himself by not fighting Chisora. Haye went after the money and now Wlad should pay for it giving up his easy payday? That's crazy.