Why so much hate for Hatton?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by uppa kut, Jun 26, 2007.


  1. uppa kut

    uppa kut Active Member Full Member

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    I can't remember a fighter taking so much heat after a big win. Damn, people act like Castillo was shot as hell when Hatton ko'ed him.

    Did they hate on Oscar after his fight with Whittaker, JCC or SRL. These guys were way further out of thier prime when they were matched with ODL then Castillo was against Hatton.

    Give the man respect for a big win. I would rather see a tuff inside fight with some mauling, then see PBF do his best impersonation of dancing with the stars.
     
  2. Brendan

    Brendan Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with Uppa Cut.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Please stop with the ignorance. Most of the boxing writers, announcers, analyst, and a good deal of the fans are white. I seriously doubt white people are on a mission to discredit fighters for being of the same race. Also, are we supposed to throw a parade for Hatton for beating an old, blown up super light weight, who struggled to beat a glorified prospect in his last fight? I don't think so.

    If white fighters don't get any respect, how come Kelly Pavlik is seen as the greatest thing since slice bread after beating a limited Miranda? How come people embrace Malinaggi even though he throws about 800 jabs a fight, evey step he takes is backwards, and he only has 5 ko's in 23 fights?

    News flash buddy, every fighter is gonna face some criticism, even after big wins. Ray Leaonard came out of like a 3 year retirment, moved up to MW,and beat a fighter most people at the time thought was unbeatable and he still was criticised. Mayweather went up to 154(he came into the fight at 148 and fought a bigger, stronger guy who is still in many p4p top 20 lists, and people still didn't want to give him credit. The point is, every fighter has their critics. I seriously doubt though the people on this website(most of which I'm guessing are white) are out to belittle "Hook and Hold" Hatton's accomplishments because he is white. On the other hand, people may hate him because he's Brittish.
     
  4. Kostya Zoo

    Kostya Zoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There are, at the very least, cultural and nationalist biases. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's racial, although sometimes it appears to be the case.
     
  5. Lacyace

    Lacyace Forever Knight Full Member

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    Ok. Write down who you think are the current ten most hated boxers in the world and you'll find yourself suprised.
     
  6. David UK

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    All this was predicted by many Hattons fans on here BEFORE the Castillo fight. Virtually all of the hate come from Americans. Nothing to do with him being white. Ricky is just too rough and tough for their sanitized tastes.
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post, and sadly- you're right. Alot of casual white fans still think that unless a fighter is black or latino, he must not be a "real" fighter.
     
  8. Lacyace

    Lacyace Forever Knight Full Member

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    No Cory Spinks, Jermain Taylor, Shannon Briggs....?

    Wlad and Vitali most hated? Not even close.
     
  9. Kostya Zoo

    Kostya Zoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You hit the nail on the head, it's purely societal conditioning.

    It can easily be compared to standards of beauty. Take someone like Uma Thurman, who is ugly as ****. Most men consider her attractive because they have been societally conditioned to believe that her features are attractive.

    Well the same goes for athletes.
     
  10. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    I would say the reason he creates such debate is because in his 43 fight career, Hatton has never really faced a hot prospect, or a top domestic rival. Hattons biggest wins are against big name fighters who have seen better days. Hatton has went the McGuigan route to glory.

    As everyone knows, Witter has been chasing Hatton for years. & Hatton has used every trick in the book to avoid Witter. & I think that has cost Hatton A LOT of respect with boxing fans. Cos boxing fans always expect a fighter to face his big rival, & Hatton didnt do that. BIG mistake. Everyone wanted it, & Hatton didnt give the fight fans what they wanted.

    & even now, with Witter a 30 something proud WBC champ, Hatton still insists he wont face him. & I think that has been his biggest mistake, he wont take on a genuine 50/50 fight. He was a heavy betting favourite against Castillo, & you can never give a man too much credit for fights hes expected to win.

    hatton needs to exorcise the ghost of Witter, or beat an up & coming brash & confident domestic rival prospect who has been calling him out like Ajose Olusegun for instance, a win that will mean the world to his home fans, & then he can think about taking on the elite.

    Its all about getting the right wins, & Hatton isnt doing that at the moment. He needs to beat his domestic nemesis or beat an up & coming prospect from his homeland, cos if he wants to create a legacy that people will always talk about, he has to fill in the gaps. & he has two big gaps to fill, before he takes on an elite fighter.

    Cotto has fought his big domestic rival & obliterated him, why cant Hatton do the same?
     
  11. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    Thats your personal opinion. Not everyones. Dont try to act like what youve seen in your little world applies to everyones.

    Your confused.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm not from Sacramento(Philly born and raised), but I bet there is a good Latino population out there. It would only make sense to give coverage to Mexican fighters. I bet you those same fighters haven't had multiple appearences on HBO and also weren't studio guests on FNF. Also, you ever think that Wlad doesn't get credit because he's been knocked out 3 times(once by a tomato can, once by a part time golfer, and once by an actual viable contender)? Or that his fight with Peter wasn't mentioned because he got knocked down 3 times, and won mostly because Peter was too tired to throw enough punches, or that people might not like Wlad because people in the states associate him with communism and Ivan Drago?

    Read my whole post, every fighter(regardless of race) gets hated on. If you look at past posts on this board, you won't find many prominant fighters who doesnt have his share of critics. If white people were so against white fighters than people like Malinaggi wouldn't get rewarded for getting his ass beat by headling an HBO BAD card(he did nothing but jab in that fight and was rewarded with another headline fight on HBO where he did nothing but jab and throw an occasional cross). People like Gerry Cooney wouldn't be a part of one of the most hyped heavyweight fights in boxing history. If whites hated white fighters so much Rocky Balboa, who isn't even real, wouldn't so beloved.(They even have that big ass statue from Rocky III outisde of the art musuem here in Philly)
     
  13. skipdog

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    Im a proud American and Rh is one of my favorite fighters of the last ten years. Why? Because he seems like a cool, genuine, everyday kind of cat. He parties, has a good time, etc. When its time to get the job done he works his ass off and handles his business. Think the majority of haters in general are just that hateful and jealous of someones accomplishments. Funny thing at the gym where I train not one non-white person has ever said a kind word about Hatton that I can recall.
     
  14. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Kostya's bringing his A game tonight
     
  15. Expert

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    could be but De La Hoya didnt fight that way with Whitaker and JCC