So, you belive that an mma fighter should allow someone to tear their knee apart instead of tapping? LOL I may not have a career anymore, but I never quit!
I believe if you are terrified of getting your knee torn apart, don't hop in a cage against a guy who is trying to tear your knee apart. How's that? Don't tell me, after you frantically tapped out, that you're afraid of getting your knee torn apart - BEFORE the guy tears your knee apart. That's like quitting the moment a boxer raises his hand and looks like he's going to punch you. What did you think the other guy was going to try to do?
They are professional fighters. How are they going to earn money if their knee gets terminally damaged?
I don't think guys are terrified. I do believe in the heat of battle, they realize they are in a situation, they cannot overcome, so they tap. It's illogical to let your opponent do severe damage just for prides sake. In some sense, it's almost a sign of respect to tap. You got me, good job, type of thing.
WHAT? How is an NFL running back supposed to earn money if his knee is permanently wrecked? If you don't want to accept the risk, don't do it. That's the risk of fighting a lunatic in a cage. Nobody is telling you to become an MMA fighter and risk permanently destroying your knee. You're trying to hurt him. He's trying to hurt you. If you are fine with hurting him but don't accept you'll get hurt yourself, you picked the wrong sport. If you get in a cage with a guy intent on breaking your knee, then BEAT HIM. If you are a running back and a guy is intent on taking out your knees, run around him. If you are in a boxing ring with a guy trying to knock your head off, knock his off, first. If you're going to tap out the moment you get in a hold that MIGHT hurt you, you're in the wrong business. But, since so many do "quit" in MMA the moment a hold is applied that they might get hurt from, maybe they are in the right business and that's why I never cared for it. Lots of front runners. Lots of guys willing to dish it out as long as they don't get hurt in return. I don't have a lot of respect for front runners who quit when they start getting beaten. Which is why Joshua quitting against Ruiz was so pathetic to me. Joshua didn't go to the hospital. He suffered no injuries that required a hospital stay. Just spit out his mouthpiece and quit.
NFL players have the shortest lives of any athlete. They have learned now most suffer CTE before they ever reach the pros. The helmet led to more brain damage because they constantly bash their heads together on the line. (Forgot I was on a British site for a moment.) Which is why there has been a steady decline in the number of players even taking up the sport as kids. They don't want them to get injured, so they don't let them do it. (See how that works? They don't want their kids brains scrambled, so they don't allow them to take up the sport.)
Not a right analogy to hammer the point home, BJJ training teaches practitioners to tap to signal discomfort and to make the other guy aware that he's already conquered the fort . A parallel to tapping would be corner stoppage by throwing in the towel if the fighter is receiving too much damage. The "quitting" part during the 1 minute rest can be quite similar with either the corner or the fighter refusing to continue on grounds of injury or having no chance to win.
So out of interest, Dubble, do you count Gerald McClellan as a quitter? After all, he was conscious when he took that knee and he chose to be in that ring... Cmon, let's be sensible here - the point isn't to see fighters getting genuinely hurt and/or permanently damaged, it's to see who the better fighter is... A tap-out still tells you who won the fight, a quit is a confession from a fighter that they feel they now cannot win the fight (and yep, you still know who won)
He's drawing parallels and miserably failing to make sense, BJJ training requires you to know when to tap and tapping in case there's nothing you can do is encouraged to elongate shelf life of the fighter and protect the joints /tendons etc. The closest we've got to tapping is the corner throwing in the towel when a fighter is getting viciously pummeled without having anything substantial to dish back.
In the interests of fairness, he ought to have the right of reply himself. It would appear consistent with his other posts in this thread, but if I've misunderstood him then I'd like to know why