why some boxing fans are disrespecting ground fighting

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Spirytus, Sep 15, 2008.


Page 1 of 3
  1. Spirytus

    Spirytus New Member Full Member

    18
    0
    May 7, 2007
    first of all i dont want it to turn into another boxing vs MMA thread as i appreciate both sides, ground fighting and boxing equally (almost). ultimately you need to know both and only standing/ground fighting is not enough, despite of what some idiots here are saying.

    anyway, i've been wondering why so many boxing fans is bashing MMA? is it because they dont wanna admit that even best boxer might loose to someone with solid ground fighting skills and ultimately boxing is not universal and best of all?
    is it because of ignorance and because they never fought any grappler neither learned wrestling/bjj or similar?

    also what makes some people say things like all MMA fighters are talentless bums and top boxers, if only wanted would rule in bjj, wrestling etc. that is what really pisses me off cause those top grapplers spend their lives perfecting various techniques and to say they got no talent (at least some of them) is imo damn disrespectful and pretty dumb. there is a LOT of ****ing skills involved in ground fighting

    ok, when you got clicked on a chin you will go down and so much for you ground fighting, but again once it goes to the ground boxer would get submitted by anyone with any ground fighting skills and some people here do not want to admit it for some reason, again why is that?
     
    Spirytus, Sep 15, 2008
    Spirytus, Sep 15, 2008
    #1
  2. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,651
    3
    Sep 29, 2007
    Er, ok.
     
    Polymath, Sep 15, 2008
    Polymath, Sep 15, 2008
    #2
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

    60,376
    241
    Sep 28, 2007
    Ground fighting can be learned in a month... (By a chimp)
    Stand-up can be taught, but the majority will never be effective.

    Balance & Tech can't be learned by everyone.
    (+ Conditioning in most MMA fighter's need's to be stepped up)

    That said... Ground & Pound is alright I guess.
    But a K.O. with either a hand/foot/strike always beat's male doggystyle.
     
    Hatesrats, Sep 15, 2008
    Hatesrats, Sep 15, 2008
    #3
  4. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

    8,445
    31
    Nov 16, 2004
    All the reactions of boxing fans to MMA are motivated by the confrontational marketing of MMA. End of story.
     
    The Kurgan, Sep 15, 2008
    The Kurgan, Sep 15, 2008
    #4
  5. Spirytus

    Spirytus New Member Full Member

    18
    0
    May 7, 2007

    thats exactly what i'm talking about.. ground fighting can be learned in a month :patsch so why those top boxers won't spend 2-3 months, learn it really, really well (3 months should be enough time :p) then jump in a cage and show everyone how easy is that and that boxing rules all?
    as dumb as it sounds ground fighters could simply say ..cover your chin, take the guy down and submit him... sounds almost too easy but we all know it dosent quite work this way so statement like learn ground fighting in a month sound pretty dumb to me (nooffence though)
     
    Spirytus, Sep 15, 2008
    Spirytus, Sep 15, 2008
    #5
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

    76,117
    2,754
    Jul 20, 2004
    Bring a guy from MMA to a boxing match and he loses, put a boxer in an MMA match and he loses. That doesn't prove anything, just proves that the boxer dedicated his life learning boxing and the MMA fighter dedicated his life learning MMA.

    As far as disrespect goes, it's MMA and the people behind it showing disrespect to a legendary sport like boxing. Boxing fans are only firing back and boxing in general could care less how hard MMA tries to hype its fights and fighters through boxing.
     
    Scar, Sep 15, 2008
    Scar, Sep 15, 2008
    #6
  7. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,788
    0
    Jul 19, 2004
    One month! You have no clue what you are talking about.

    How long has Randy Couture been training in Wrestling? How long has Fedor been training in Sambo? How long has the pioneer of the sport Royce Gracie Trained in BJJ ?
     
    geppy, Sep 15, 2008
    geppy, Sep 15, 2008
    #7
  8. AlexLona

    AlexLona New Member Full Member

    42
    0
    Sep 14, 2008
    ive noticed in mma the best fights and fighters seem 2 take a boxing stance and approach to their game plan...i mean a punch can be throwin quick and short...or long and powerful...combinations etc...elbows r extremely short range, kicks/ knees i would have to say are very effective but can be telegraphed pretty easy...and it seems the best in mma arent that great and i heard that those serious fresh off the boat kung fu masters are not allowed....whats up with that or is it just rumours?
     
    AlexLona, Sep 15, 2008
    AlexLona, Sep 15, 2008
    #8
  9. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

    12,032
    2
    Oct 12, 2007
    MMA sucks a fat baby dick
    Now get this bull**** outa here, if any of us gave half a **** about MMA we would be posting in the MMA forum or a strictly MMA site.....This has been gone over time and time again.
    Fact is if we liked a couple of ***s putting each other in leglocks or a half nelson we would be where I described
     
    RealIzm, Sep 15, 2008
    RealIzm, Sep 15, 2008
    #9
  10. Spirytus

    Spirytus New Member Full Member

    18
    0
    May 7, 2007
    damn true, i cant see mma fighter winning anything with boxing rules and vice versa, although anything might happen but thats rare exceptions. furthermore it also depends on type of fighters involved imo

    there are idiots on both sides, but i also reckon that boxing fans feel insecured by mma's growing popularity.., cannot quite understand why.. its almost like they making a living out of it and it was just about to end or sth
     
    Spirytus, Sep 15, 2008
    Spirytus, Sep 15, 2008
    #10
  11. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

    1,874
    0
    Nov 23, 2007
    Shits gay, watchin two burly dudes in spandex shorts put each other in the hucklebuck just ain't my cup of tea
     
    rreed23, Sep 15, 2008
    rreed23, Sep 15, 2008
    #11
  12. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

    16,351
    2
    Sep 6, 2008
    great post:good
     
    SouthpawSlayer, Sep 15, 2008
    SouthpawSlayer, Sep 15, 2008
    #12
  13. PRproud

    PRproud Active Member Full Member

    1,004
    0
    Dec 9, 2007
    because i dont like to see two men hugging and laying beatween the legs of another men,,,that's its just gay. And besides as someone put it before in anotherpost the best MMA fights are when they didnt go to the ground to fight.
     
    PRproud, Sep 15, 2008
    PRproud, Sep 15, 2008
    #13
  14. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

    11,392
    14
    May 24, 2006
    Why to ***git newbs put MMA threads in the boxing forum when there is a MMA subforum?
     
    elTerrible, Sep 15, 2008
    elTerrible, Sep 15, 2008
    #14
  15. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

    12,032
    2
    Oct 12, 2007
    My initial thoughts:good
     
    RealIzm, Sep 15, 2008
    RealIzm, Sep 15, 2008
    #15
Page 1 of 3