why the hate on Billy Nelson?

So people think Bunce is not telling it like it is?

Is it beyond any of you to realise that Bunce might actually think Boxnation is a good product? That he may have realised its potential, unlike a lot of whingebags on here. Most say its pretty good now. He never said it was the finished article.

He is telling it like it is; he thinks (as most should) that Boxnation is a pretty good channel for a boxing fan.

Give me examples of when Bunce has actually talked shite about Boxnation or SKY.

 

Yes he is. He shares opinion with many of us. Just because you disagree doesn't mean many are wrong pal.

Buncey aold out and became Hayes *****, he once said Haye would assault the HW division and hyped the Audrey fight. He sold out on his principles working for Frank, up to him what he does but I don't respect that. His love for Haye misguided him.

If people don't like Buncey then fine, no need to call hit a fat ******* etc but dislike is fine aslong as its based on something genuine.

Finding you very condescending too mate, you always seem to go out your way to disagree and prove others wrong.

 

I'm sure you'll get over it. It takes no effort to prove anyone wrong on this topic.

So that's what it comes down to? He chooses to take a well-paying job on the sport he loves, pushes it enthusiastically because he thinks it's a good idea, and that's selling out? Wow... He's never been anti-Frank, he worked with him on Setanta FFS!

He hyped the Haye-Audley fight? He thought it was a good fun, natural fight. And it was - it sold out at the stadium and made a fortune on PPV. Bunce may not have said what was popular, but it was true - Adamek (the name most, including myself, wanted) meant nothing over here, but Audley did. It's what he calls cash common sense, same as when Calzaghe fought Manfredo.

Yeah, he was biased with Haye. He admitted that. I still don't how that equates to him doing anything wrong. He likes the guy and his team. He wasn't lying, he genuinely thought those things.

 

That's exactly how I see it. I disagree with the guy all the time, I think he gets way too excited about British fighters, but he's only human.

Too many people still feeling hurt that he hasn't slagged Haye off for what they perceive as massive failings.

 

I completely disagree but don't go on

Bunce sold himself out. The guy claims he tells things as they are and yet hypes Haye and sells Boxnation fights as must see wars when really its Prospect v Overmatched opponent.

Not knocking you but you need to understand that others disagree and that they are entitled to their opinion. Like the Katsidis opinion, I feel Burns fought a fade version that Mitchell did. Mitchell fought the bes Katsidis where as Burns fought one that lost 2 in 3 and came down from LWW to fight at LW agant Burns, the loss of his brother adding extra damage. Yet you disagree and think Katidis is much the same. I completely disagree but I leave it there rather than carry it on.

As for Bunce to put a end to it I simply say people want others to be consistent and honest, Bunce isn't seen as this anymore. As a presenter I don't rate him, he yelps and shouts, he talks over others all the time and tries to make everything about him I.e I remember bumping into (said fighter) at a hall in London etc. Just to reaffirm statues as a credible journalist and fanatic. Steve's enthusiasm is great and so is his heart but I simply don't like hypocrites and I struggle to enjoy his show. He'd do better to interview less people and spend longer interviewing them, quality over quantity.

 

How old are you? Ten? He believed in Haye - should he have stopped that just because some internet cry-babies got upset?

I've never seen him make out the fights on BN are elite v elite, but what's he meant to do? "Watch BoxNation this weekend, it'll be shite but you might as well!"

He does more hood than harm. Name one other journalist who does as much to promote the grassroots sport. You see him at small halls, big events, meet and greets... the **** he gets on here is ****ing pathetic. Sorry man, that's just how I see it.

Never said you or anyone else wasn't. You need to understand I disagree with you and will keep arguing my point. It's not me that has the problem accepting others have an opinion, I just won't cede that they're right when they're wrong.

 

Your absolutely out of order here and taking everything out of context whilst also using debaters license of misquoting. When have I ever said he's bad for boxing?

My age is 24 and what the **** does that have to do with it? Is there some hidden age threshold where opinions take extra stock?

He does take some ****. Too much imo but so do many, myself in particular for be willing to war with ignorant people who always agree with the masses. I will go out on a limb to prove people wrong and rub noses in if I deem necessary. But don't, not for a moment, include me in this boat, I don't like Buncey for selling out its ky opinion and im entitled to it, I have Boxnation and Skysports and go to shows. Haye imo was a breath of fresh air but Buncey got too involved and broke rule number one of any journalist/presenter - bias, which clouded judgement.

Calling me a cry baby is bang out of order and I look for an apology, you're being pedantic and quite simply barking up the wrong tree.

As for Boxnation, I prefer a bill once a month of decent opponenta fighting one another, can't be doing one good fight plus a few prospects v tba's. Padding records and right in front of you too, then you get told that's value. I don't expect Boxnation to come.out and say its bollocks or anything but I don't expect to see 'tell it like it is' acting like QVC on a North Korea-esque production. Sky are not blameless either.

 

You'll be waiting some time for an apology. I never quoted you out of context or called you a cry baby. I think you inferred a lot that wasn't there.

I asked about your age as a rhetorical question, not literally. But you are taking this a little personally I'd say.

 

Why would my age count for a thing? Your the person that brought that into play nobody else. You simply cannot handle being wrong, your wrong about Katsidis and wrong about this. People can have opinions and its upto them how they think, to call people cry baboe because they don't like the way Bunce has gone back in his values is laughable. You have an elitist mentality imo and look down on others who disagree, your age justifies this.

There's nothing rhetorical about it, just a **** comment from you and your too stubborn to correct that.

Not being funny but you really showed your level with that comment and your points of view in general. You have no more right on this forum than Rob, you may be a better poster but your constant knocking of him is similar to a bully.

 

Let's be honest, he doesn't half chat some absolute shite on here at times. He only gets the stick any other person would do for some of the outrageous things he comes up with. Fair enough some of it is in response and no you're not going to criticize your own guy, but he comes forward with a lot of BS too, initiating it really.

 

As I demonstrated, like a boss:yep

I'm sure you'll get over it.

Argue away. It does seem like your favourite past time anyway, df


It's obvious to see when someone genuinely believes in what they're saying, and when they're just saying it because it's the "right thing". If you can't tell the difference...more fool you. No one expects him to slag off boxnation btw, that's a strawman arguement.

Edit: You're probably talking about Nelson here, and not Bunce, but the same applies.

Bingo. His journalist skills, his personality, the work he's done for boxing is irrelevant in this case.

When you or me or anyone else on this forum says something people disagree with, have we not been told that we're "chatting ****"? Does anyone come to our aid saying "no, no, he's not chatting ****. That's just his opinion. Don't give him any ****, because it's pathetic".

The only pathetic thing is people not realising how a forum works. Just 'cause someones a pro or a journalist doesn't mean they should get abuse for it, but it doesn't mean they should be treated any differently to any other poster.

 

Remember your anti-Scottish if you disagree too.

We will fight anybody who's put inforny of Ricky, hence the 3 poor defenses. A tough mandatory comes along and he jumps in weight. He finds the determination to get down for Cook but not for record payday against Broner? :!:


Let's leave it there.

 

Mr Nelson is ok, he can be very funny sometimes, my only issue with him is he has trained a world champion (and other champions) so nobody can question his knowledge or skills as a trainer but I have never seen him type anything insightful, educational or interesting about boxing (he might have, maybe I missed it)..... he seems to spend his time on here expressing an unhealthy obsession with Kevin Mitchell and slagging off anybody who dares to question the ability or opposition of Ricky Burns.

As for Buncey, well I like him, to me he is a boxing fan first and that seems to get in the way sometimes and he goes off on a rant Lol. that said I'd rather listen to Mr Bunce than the likes of Adam Smith any day of the week. there is nothing wrong with expressing a little bit of passion about the sport.

 

Was TFFP not on about Nelson mate? But yeah agree with everything you've said.

 

Yeah mate, just realised he's probably on about ol' Billy.