Why the Hell do we watch Floyd? One person knows the answer

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  1. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So in other words, he's a good con artist.
     
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  2. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think fans make up the storylines themselves. Boxing fans create their own intrigue, but that's not the same thing as a storyline, which is an actual marketing narrative.

    The examples you mentioned, like "great offense vs. great defense" and "big hard puncher vs. hard puncher" are specific to the boxing world. How does the casual fan know that Clottey is known for his defense? The casual fan won't know Clottey at all. That's fan intrigue, but that's not a storyline.

    Pac's fights have been largely devoid of storylines, which is part of why he doesn't outsell Floyd despite being arguably more popular. There was a David and Goliath storyline for Pac-DLH, and to a lesser extent for Pac-Margarito, but his other fights have lacked a true narrative like, "This is a young, hungry lion. Floyd hasn't fought in over a year. Floyd is getting old now! What will he have left? They said he would never take a fight like this, but he has! Anything can happen!"

    It's an angle that isn't just mentioned by fans on message boards, but it gets hammered in every public appearance. It manipulates the casual viewer into believing that something big could really happen.

    It's a skill, like this promoter said, that Floyd really excels at and most other active fighters never really learned to do, except Hopkins within the last year or so.
     
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  3. SweetHome_Bama

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    Americans don't give a damn about Puerto Ricans and their flag, but funnily enough beating Trinidad sent his stock through the roof than it ever was, then beating Oscar solidified his stance.

    B-Hop was never flamboyant enough to sell his ****, he never did enough to make White America hate his guts, mainly because the never feed the press enough.

    B-Hop gets more play for the **** he says about McNabb than for any **** he has ever said about a boxer.
     
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  4. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Nice article.. Floyd sells PPV's because of his opponents popularity. He also talks alot and the public eats it up like its Nutella! The story lines help but its basically him running his mouth that gets him those PPV sales. If floyd had manny's personality he would sell 500K per fight!
     
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  5. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no one said it was...i was simply using another example of how perception and promoting can make something seem like more than it is....and well...pac happens to be a perfect example

    sorry
     
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  6. jmmpbf

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    how many of floyd haters actually watched hes earlier fights?
     
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  7. DobyZhee

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    Great GREAT boxer.
     
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  8. PrinceN

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    Mayweather is also the best boxer of his generation
     
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  9. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    He's a great BOXER but he doesnt give you entertainment value like Manny Pacquiao!! The pac monster is a great FIGHTER that loves to mix it up, if manny wanted to he could outbox his opponents with his superior speed.. Its just not his style, he loves to scrap! Thats why Manny will always be loved more than Floyd. :deal
     
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  10. PrinceN

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    I mean I am entertained by Manny when he fights. I dont know about this outbox thing. But what I do know is Floyd is the best boxer of this generation. But Manny is GREAT for boxing and ENTERTAINING
     
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  11. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Good post!
     
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  12. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, I suspect Al Haymon had most to do with the path of least resistence Floyd went on to take since he moved up to 140. Before that Floyd was fighting Hernandez in his 17th fight, fought the other best fighter in his weight class, Corrales, jumped straight in with Castillo at 135 and an immediate rematch. After that Floyd's carefully chosen every opponent, and rarely took the best available, killing fights with Winky, Margarito, Pac.
     
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  13. vengeex

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    Good read...

    Personally, I didn't buy those storylines... Good for me. :nut
     
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  14. jmmpbf

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    See i agree with you there, he fought good opponents, but you forget ARUM was promoting him then, and when he moved up at 140+ dont you think Arum wanted to protect Cotto, Margarito, Clottey etc? just a thought.
     
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  15. FORMIDABLE

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    If you look at his fighters, Arum was not afraid to match them up with the best, and each other. Juanma and Gamboa was his his only stuff-up I can remember. He offered Floyd 8 million to fight Margarito, and I think Cotto and Hatton was part of that proposed deal Floyd fans like to bring up to excuse him declining the Margarito fight. Floyd made a business decision, and since then he's been more businessman than a fighter looking to build his legacy to something worthy of calling himself the GOAT.
     
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