Why the hell is Brock and Bryd even in the IBF elimination tournament?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Punisher33, Oct 24, 2007.


  1. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    you have to actually pay the IBF to get a mandatory position at any weight and byrd will get about 6 to 8 million tv viewer`s on saturday night approx.
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exciting matches, come on did you see the Bryd/Wlad fight? It was a one-sidded beat down, the Brock/Wlad fight was boring as hell until Wlad unloaded that Vicious hook in the 7th.

    I for one would hate to see a Brock/Wlad 2 or even worse Wlad/Bryd 3, I think theres other fighters that deserve a chance more than these guys. If Bryd or Brock end up fighting Wlad, the boxing fans end up losing a again.:-(
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its not even on TV in the US, which is bad sign already interest wise.
     
  4. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    do you beleive that 6 to 8 million viewers for a byrd fight is good or bad numbers ?

    that would equate to 20 million plus viewers if you equal the populations up
    between germany and usa.

    i obviously do not know much about cbs/nbc/abc tv , but surely they could find a slot to show boxing.

    i presume they have subsidary channels .

    how about espn showing it on a day delay ?

    just as an example in the uk alone we have 7 sports only channels pay per month
    sky sports 1 to 4
    eurosport 1 and 2
    setanta sports
    then we have abc type channels free to air which have boxing slots , some at the most obscure times but they still show boxing for the die hard.
     
  5. Brickhaus

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    I didn't say these specifically were exciting matches, but that it has forced rematches of exciting fights in the past where the champ won narrowly and didn't want to risk fighting the person again. Don't twist around what I was saying.
     
  6. Heavyrighthand

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    It does seem a bit nuts for both Byrd and Brock to be so close to yet another shot at the guy who just took each one out in grand fashion, yes...........

    ..........but as has been said in other threads.................

    ...............there are only so many contenders to keep all four titleholders fighting, and keep in mind that each organization can't intrude and name one fighter as their mandatory when another organization already has him as their mandatory, you are obviously going to end up having to recycle already beaten opponents, and push undeserving fighters to the top before they should be. That's just the math of it, when you have to have four seperate mandatories either being named, or outright fighting in an eliminator, all the time.

    Yet another reason why unification is so important, so needed, and so overdue, for the ailing heavyweight divsion.
     
  7. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see what your saying, I thought you were trying to say the matches they both had with Wlad were exciting, misunderstanding on my part.

    I hope that Bryd and Brock dont get another shot at Wlad, but if they do I hope they put on a better show for the fans.
     
  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont think the Bryd/Povetkin fight will be shown in the US, or at least it wont be shown live how I like it. Thats just hope Povetkin prevails so we wont have to sit through another Bryd/Wlad fight again, that would **** me off as a fan.
     
  9. Punisher33

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    I understand politics is always involved, I just wish they would put fans first for once. What has Brock or Bryd done lately, there both boring to watch and havnt beat anyone good since getting there asses handed to them by Wlad.

    I dont know maybe Im missing something, but how can 2 guys that just were dominated by Wlad less than a year and half ago get another chance, its beyond me.
     
  10. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The fighters who are more deserving for the shot at Wlad are already tied up in the other three organizations.


    Now that all four titles are apart, and all four organizations avoid each others' champion and mandatories, you have to view the heavyweight division in four seperate factions that occasionally trade fighters. That's the only way to see it as it is; four mini heavyweight divisions. And when you have four mini organizations, obviously, the level of opposition will decline in each one, as opposed to having only one titleholder, and one mandatory, who would be the most deserving....

    As I said, unification is the key to ending all this nonsense. :good
     
  11. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unification is light years away IMO, most of the title holders dont want anything to do with Wlad. Wether its promoters or there just plain scared of Wlad I dont know, probably both. I doubt Iggy will fight Wlad, he knows deep down he cant beat Wlad thats why hes holding out.

    I see Peter giving him a chance, but will have to wait to see if he wins and who he still has to fight after he wins against Maskaev. Im really starting to understand now, why the heavywieght division is dying.
     
  12. C Money

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    They may not deserve it, but the bright side is Povetkin and Chambers may very well eliminate BOTH:good
     
  13. Heavyrighthand

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    Yeah, if you look at what they have to do, its not like they are just right there ready to get their shot.

    -Brock would have to first et by Chambers (no small feat) and then the best man between Byrd and Povetkin.(a very hard thing to do).........

    -Byrd will obviously have to get by Povetkin (very tough fight for anyone0, and then the Brock Chambers winner (another tough fight).

    So as I see it, I retract my previous statement saying its nuts that they are so close to another shot. They are not really that close, seeing as how in order to get another shot at the IBF (keep in mind this is only one title/one fourth of THE championship,so its not really that valuable in the grand scheme of things), they'll have to win two consecitive, very tough fights.

    So I would say that whomever wins this little tourney, will be fairly deserving, be it Brock, Byrd, Povetkin, or Chambers. These guys have some tough oppoents to get past, first. Credit to the winner.:good I'd say whomever that is does deserve another shot at one fourth of the title.