Why the high standard for the Klitschkos?

Because today's boxing fans are stupid.

 

Well said.

 

A lot of boxers aren't appreciated until after they retire. Lewis was ****ing despised by a lot of people when he was still active. Now many people call him an ATG. Ali was hated as well. It's the way of boxing.

Another common theme is current boxing sucks comapred to the past. I don't mean that in a here and now way either. I mean people in the 60's thought boxing sucked comapred to the 50's, 70's were crap compared to the 60's, etc etc.

 

Klits fan want to think that they are eons above every other HW, but unfortunately they are simply fighting in an very weak era. They are good maybe great fighters, but without decent competitors to show what your really made of, they will always rank low... Sorry

 

Because fans of today, particularly the "expert fans" on the internet are idiots.

They have bought in to this concept that if you lost, especially to a tomato can, than you are not elite or HOF worthy. That you are washed up, shot, old, drained, slow, ******ed, etc after 1 defeat, god forbid it 2 or 3 defeats.

Apparently, they are now aware of the records of SRR, Greb, SRL, Armstrong, Ali, Pea, Duran, Louis, etc - you know dudes that makes up the top 10 of ANYBODY'S list. EVERY fighter in ANY top 10 list has at least 1 defeat, if not 2, 3.... 7 or more.

Anyway, many of these hard core fans have agendas and are just dismissing boxers for many reasons (usually to support their own boxer). So always take it with a huge grain of salt. In fact, make it a sack of salt.

Though the bias goes both ways. Just because a boxer is dominating a weight class for several years let us not get carried away and start comparing them to Ali, Louis and such. They may be athletically gifted, but their resume and competition is very lacking. Not their fault, but that is the reality.

 

Racial background.

 

This...^

 

Yeah, a lot of fans tend to be very dismissing often because of agenda and/or historical context. Because they don't see the names in anyone's top 5 ATG they are quick to label them.

 

Exactly. The Klitschko's have beat noone that anyone will remember in 50 years, let alone 10. I do feel the Klitschko's are really good champs, but it's easy to look good against weak competition. It's like putting Lebron in a one on one game against a good college player. Of course Lebron's going to win and look good doing it, he's not being challenged to dig down deep and pull out a victory against a tough opponent. Thats how I kinda view the Klits. It's easy to win when your bigger, stronger, and more skilled than your opponents.

 

this thread is the biggest joke ive seen and anyone who agrees with it is a klitschko nuthugging WANKER.

theres absolutely no way you can compare klitschko with some of the legends that were mentioned by the author of this thread in his post.

Tyson....tyson was melting down up to the douglas fight, his whole life was in disarray, and from between the end of '88 and '90, anyone who could box well would have beaten him, simply because of the way he was abusing his body with drugs, and having his focus on everything BUT boxing...his own fault nonetheless...but douglas put on one of the best performances ever to beat him, and on that night he wuda ****ed wlad up within five rounds!

Ali on the other hand....mentioning him in the same breathe as wlad, is almost ****ing blasphemous ....during Ali's career he only really lost to norton and frazier.....in gruelling, epic battles (the other losses occuring between '77 and '81, during the time when Ali had the symptoms of parkisons clearly visible, and was in no position to be boxing at all).

wlad has been ****ED UP three times by brewsters, sanders, and purity, during his youth.....and anyone who has the ability to get inside him, will open him up again pretty soon (i think even david gaye wud be up to the job)....but lately wlad his used his reach VERY well against overmatched, overweight opposition, who he holds off for the majority of the fight, before they collapse due to exhaustion rather than wlads 'ATG knockout power' that dickheads talk about on here all the time.

this thread is BULL****.

 

So when were contemplating rather a fighter is an All-Time Great or not the standard shouldn't be high ?

None the less; The reason I'm not a big fan of the Klitschko Brothers is simple, their boring, No emotion, No drama, not entertainment value, nothing.

I can't deny the fact that their extremely talented fighters because they are, however, they have little to no entertainment value. You know why fans loved Mike Tyson, he was entertaining, now in retrospect the guys he faced weren't much better than the fighters Wlad is beating but it was the manor in which he beat them.

I don't want to watch Wlad paw and toy with a B-Level opponent for 11 rounds and then knock him out late, I'll pass on that.

I watch Klitschko fights but not because I like them, I watch them more so to examine the two fighters and look for things like has he improved or has he gotten slower. Other than that I could careless who or when he fights.