Why the high standard for the Klitschkos?

If they do something wrong, sure, I'll say it. There isn't any fighter who I am biased towards and I have no issue criticizing them. I am a JMMarquez fan but I think he's wrong to take the Morales fight. I like Pacquiao a lot but I don't support him fighting Mosley. On the other hand, I dislike Brandon Rios but he's doing good things with his career and he'll fight anyone, so I can't fault him for that. And there are fighters who I like and genuinely can't say a bad word about, such as Froch or Katsidis, but if they pulled some bull**** like how K2 have during negotiations, I'd say so.

But, yeah, I genuinely don't think I'm biased against the Klitschko's. I spent a lot of time defending them when people went over the top with the dislike and now, I feel the momentum has shifted and people are going over the top with the praise, because nobody has come close to touching them in recent years. If they beat a good opponent, I'll give them just praise. If they carry on beating poor fighters, I'm not going to pretend they are any different.

Like I said, I'm a fan of the Klitschko's but I'm a boxing fan primarily. If I support anyones bull**** because of a personal favouritism, I wouldn't be a proper boxing fan. I'm not going to turn a blind eye to the negative effect the Klitschko's are having either and I don't think any boxing fan should.

 

Yet it's relevant when talking about the Klitschko's. What a double standard

Watching Haye rabbit punch past it fighters nearly 10 years older than himself is hardly exciting, watching him run like a ***** for 12 rounds throwing less than 12 punches a round is not exciting, watching him stare at a petrified Fraudley for 2+ rounds was not exciting.

 

What are you talking about?

Seriously, read your post and tell me that's a valid post. Can you do it? I get sick of you blatant fanboys chirping in with a stupid, pointless argument and acting like you have a point. Let me tell you where you went wrong:

1. The Klitschko's are more boring. The quality of opposition is irrelevant and I have never said otherwise, in terms of being entertaining, so there is no double standard.

2. You mention two fights? I don't know. You clearly have no idea about Haye.

 

If you don't get how stupid that is......I can't help you. How's that for a point JackOff?

 

You missed the point completely. You owned me when you said "JackOff" though. Congratulations.

 

Do you have a document filled with this crap so you can just paste parts you want or are wasting time coming up with this load of crap every single time. Your posts are so large you could of written 5 "I hate Klitchko brothers" books by now.

 

GREAT SPOT ON ANALYS:good

 

Watch wlad vs sultan (you know, the one you make believe ruined boxing there for years, the one that offered to have wlad/hayes fight), now wlad fought a defensive fighter, who moved out of harms way the whole fight. It happens, not every fighter that enters the ring wants to be ko'd, some avoid a fight to last to the bell, an with sultan talents, he makes it that much harder to take out.

Now

Watch hayes vs valuev, a fight that i heard they won't even let on utube:yep (just joking), what do we see there, a fight were valuev is in front of hayes, chasing down hayes, hell in some rounds, cleanly out boxing hayes, a fight were the total amount of punches thrown on hayes part combined with the total amount of punches landed on valuev part = 162, were wlad landed 148 against sultan, that is 14 punches less then your hero an valuve combined. also sultan landed 1 less then the most exciting boxer in world "hayes" in his losing effort.

to bad hayes PULLED OUT of his july 2 fight with wlad, cause then we could see him teach wlad how to be exciting.....:yep

 

Haters always come hand in hand with major accomplishments. The fact is that the lion's share of them come from Britain followed distantly by Russia for entirely different reasons though.

 

I knew I'd get this type of reply from somebody here and I was careful enough to not mention the Klits *AT ALL*.

And yet you bring it up? Where did I say the Klitschkos are to be excused of their losses? I didn't. Wlad's losses in particular are horrible and highly detrimental to his track record. Specifically considering the quality of opposition and the way he was knocked from pillar to post by complete nobodies.

That said though there's nothing in the world that excuses Tyson's losses and his **** poor overall career, considering his incredible talent.

I specifically beg to differ between the type of mental weakness to be identified between Mike and Wlad. It's a matter of definition.

What is mental weakness? If a bouncer hits me in the face in a club and I don't know how to deal with it and I start panicking does that mean I am mentally weak? People say Wlad is mentally weak and I reply I don't think he's mentally weak he's scared of being hurt and that's not the same thing.

I would never argue with the latter. Wlad get's sacred and panics easily when hit flush on the chin. There's no excuse for it, it's a fact. Imagine that Wlad in his childhood probably called for his bigger (and meaner) brother when some kid thugs beat him up. Wlad never had to deal with being punched in the face, it was an unknown experience. Tyson was in a street fight with other kids probably every other day during his youth. He's used to it.

Does that give you mental strength? No I doubt it. It makes you panic-resistant upon impact and takes away the initial fear of being punched on the chin. But that's not mental strength, at least in my book.

You know what I'd call mental strength? Being knocked out by a total nobody like Sanders or McCall, then being laughed at and being written off by the whole world. Dozens of so-called friends telling you to retire because you "don't have it". Then go and find the motivation and incredible self-discipline, find the self-belief that you can do it, work hard and come back stronger than you ever were and dominate your division for a couple of years.

*THAT*.. IMO.. is mental strength. Something that Wlad and Lewis have, and Tyson didn't.

 

Sadly, the answer is that it is because they are not American. American fans underrate them.

Also, Whereas I myself appreciate their style in and out of the ring, it is hard for casual boxing fans to get into them since they are not being arrested every five minutes, charged with ****, or tying to break the nose of thier opponents in such as way as to drive the cartiliage into his brain.

 

second post today where not one single word makes any sense....

 

Perhaps you are simply not that bright?

 

i can't argue with that