Why the Hrgovic loss was good for Itauma

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Aug 31, 2026.


Was this loss a good thing for Itauma’s career?

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  2. No

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was literally saying before the fight that he didn’t believe his chin would ever so much as need to get tested, he was really believing his own hype.

    No one in history went their career without having their chin tested.

    Itauma clearly had no respect for Hrgovic and probably not for the rest of the division in general, and he wasted energy on unnecessary movements, and was throwing when the punch clearly wasn’t there.

    First big step up and he showed absolutely no respect for the opposition, and showed a lack of experience at the top level.

    This should teach him to understand that he can’t blow away everyone, and that he does indeed need to pace himself and show respect for the skillset and chin of his opponents.

    Especially him gaining this experience at a young age is much better too.

    And the loss itself isn’t bad either. He needed a big step up at some point, and in boxing, there’s always a risk of losing a fight when you step up with little experience, but you have to gain the experience at some point, and Itauma gaining it young is much better.
     
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  2. NoChin

    NoChin Jamal Adams - I'm the best in the nAAAAAYSHON!!!! Full Member

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    Losing is never good. Losses are lessons are a bunch of philosophical bull****. Especially getting your ass handed to you getting carried out of the ring on a stretcher.
     
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  3. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    It will make or break him, he won't be "the same" that's for sure, but we will have to wait and see which way it goes.. I'm leaning towards "break", but time will tell.
     
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  4. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    He's not going to recover like Wlad did either. Everything I see about Moses is that he'll recover just like Lucian Bute did (who also visibly gassed out but in the 12th round, not 8th). Lucian Bute went on to get knocked out by Carl Froch. Moses Itouma is going to get legit knocked out as well, he's a 4 round fighter and you can't change that. No amount of cardio will let you fight at that insane tempo for 12 rounds.
     
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  5. HrGOATvic

    HrGOATvic New Member banned Full Member

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    Itauma's style needed adjustments, he needed to learn a lesson about chins and gas tanks, and it's best to learn it as early as possible. So in that sense, the loss IS good for him, better now than 5 or 10 years down the road.

    Of course it would be best for Itauma if he never had to go 9 rounds, never got hit, and just KOd everybody in 6, but as shown that's not a realistic expectation.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. What would've been "good" for Itauma was learning that a chin was important, and learning that you need to spar AT LEAST 12 rounds if you're going to compete in a 12-rounder a LONG time ago.

    After being evaluated at the hospital, they found nothing was wrong with him. He was just exhausted. That, and Hrgovic punched him in the head a bunch of times. ;)

    Can you imagine how Moses will react when he actually GETS HURT in the ring?

    What happens when he breaks a hand? What happens when his eye swells shut? What happens when his jaw is broken? Think he'll keep fighting? :rolleyes: (No, they'll just more excuses to QUIT.)

    He was up eight rounds to NONE, and couldn't SUCK IT UP when he got tired.

    All we learned Saturday was Moses is an intimidating, solid EIGHT-ROUND fighter. Unfortunately, most fights aren't eight rounds.

    And we also learned he's a bit of a "quitter." Which isn't good, which is what you don't want anyone to learn.

    Not preparing properly is just another excuse for quitting. Saying, "I'll do better next time, but carry me out of the ring, I'm too tired," isn't "GOOD."
     
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  7. Mickc

    Mickc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Until Itauma continues with his career nobody actually knows if this loss to Hrgovic is a good or a bad thing,plenty fighters are never the same after there first loss especially power punchers.
     
  8. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The guy is not even 22. He can definitely learn from this loss. Whether he does or not, is up to him.
     
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  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't know if I'd say 'good', but it really showed he needed late fights rounds in prior fights. He was dominating, but once his gas went out, he was cooked.
     
  10. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was good in the sense that he has evidence of everything he needs to work on to improve. Question is whether he can do it - not always easy to take clear lessons and come back after a rough loss. We'll see.
     
  11. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How did he quit?

    He kept throwing until the ref stepped in and his trainer threw the towel in.
     
  12. misd669

    misd669 Member Full Member

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    were'nt most people saying that itauma was going to blow him away???
    now, all the forensic analysis of the fight are going into overdrive...
    itauma was a sure bet to defeat hrgovic by the itauma fanboys..
    the arrogance, contempt and disrespect shown to hrgovic before the fight was disgusting, and quite frankly shown how uneducated itauma fans are..
     
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  13. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's always good any time you learn.

    Ideally, you'd want to learn something, or be aware of the distinct possibility of it occuring, before you experience it. Unfortunately, stupidity and arrogance got in the way of Itauma learning this lesson before hand, so he had to learn it the hard way.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't train for a 12-rounder, by his own admission. Wasn't prepared. Did what he normally did. When that didn't work, he fell apart inside three minutes.

    He wasn't injured but got carried out of the ring. He wouldn't even stand up. He had to be lifted up. They carried him out of the arena. They put him in an ambulance. He made this HUGE "feel sorry for me" exit ... got to the hospital ... and was released because HE WASN'T INJURED.

    When was the last time you saw a heavyweight leave the ring on a stretcher with no injuries and no concussion ... nothing wrong with him ... just tired?

    I can't recall one.

    He wasn't even concussed. IF he was, they'd leave him in overnight for observation.

    He didn't train for 12, got tired, and QUIT.

    I'm so tired. Pick me up. Carry me out. What utter bull. :rolleyes:

    If you bought that, you got played. Because he wasn't injured.

    Not training properly, and then getting tired, and blaming being tired on losing, is QUITTING.

    If that final last swing he threw at Hrgovic had caught Filip and knocked him out ... think they'd have carried Moses out of the ring on a stretcher? :pipi

    HELL NO. He'd have done all the interviews. Everyone would've celebrated in the ring. The party would've commenced.

    He's a quitter. And he wasn't even injured. Finally, his opponent took what he dished out, and was coming on strong, and Moses just imploded.

    Suddenly, his legs didn't work. And he was too tired to stand. It's like a child falling down on the ground and not being able to go anymore.

    Screw that. I've watched guys get beaten to death and walk out of the ring over the last 50 years. I have no patience for a chubby 21-year-old who has no injuries getting carried out because he didn't train hard enough and got too tired.

    He's a quitter. And, when he's actually injured in a fight, he'll quit again. Because he's already quit when HE WASN'T injured. He quit when he was up 8-0 with a knockdown, and he was 21.

    If he was older, heavier, knocked down, behind on the cards, and actually injured, think he's going to fight back harder?

    He's a quitter. If being tired is an excuse that works, being behind on the cards and injured sure as hell will be, too.

    And the people making excuses for him are being "soft."
     
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  15. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was utterly spent. That's why he was helped out of the ring. He was in this state because he didn't train properly. Not training properly and constantly throwing full power shots like an idiot every round against a tough as nails seasoned vet when you have the fighting experience of a club fighter will leave you in the state moses was in.

    Arrogance and stupidity got him in that state. He didn't quit.